From jkstill@cybcon.com Sun, 13 May 2001 22:33:46 -0700 From: Jared Still Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 22:33:46 -0700 Subject: Re: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain On Sunday 13 May 2001 18:51, Mohan, Ross wrote: > Sounds like client-based Forms would be OK with ONS, then. > > Or, izzit? Forms 5 wouldn't work on Solaris with ONS. I'm not sure about forms 6 or 6i. MetaBlink is stuck right now or I'd try and verify this through support. Jared > > - ross > ( i won't FedEx you a burger, but write yerself a raincheck) > > || -----Original Message----- > || From: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill@cybcon.com] > || Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:50 PM > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > || Subject: Re: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server > || > || > || > || Ross, > || > || What I was referring to was using Oracle Forms directly on > || Unix, *not* through iAS. iAS takes care of that stuff for > || you. > || > || Lesse, I tried using forms 5.x on Solaris a couple of years > || ago, and much to my dismay found that tnsnames.ora was > || *required* in order to connect to a database. This was > || on a box that worked just fine with ORANAMES when > || connecting via sqlplus or Perl. > || > || Reports had the same problem. > || > || I was troubleshooting some forms of the 6i variety on Solaris > || a few months ago, and since I still had the tnsnames.ora setup > || on that box from the previous go round with forms, I honestly > || don't know if Forms 6i required it or not. > || > || The trouble shooting was in native forms mode on Solaris 2.6, > || though the forms were moved to another box and run in iAS, > || which functioned just fine with ORANAMES. > || > || I don't have ORANAMES setup here at home or I would try > || and test this here. > || > || Jared > || > || On Friday 11 May 2001 10:45, Mohan, Ross wrote: > || > Jared, > || > > || > You may have just earned yourself a dinner. (And I > || > promise you will not receive it the way you did my > || > $0.02 recently ;-) > || > > || > Can you tell me more...alot more would be grand...about > || > how Forms needs tnsnames? > || > > || > *thanks* > || > > || > Ross > || > > || > || -----Original Message----- > || > || From: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill@cybcon.com] > || > || Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:43 PM > || > || To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com; Mohan, Ross > || > || Subject: Re: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server > || > || > || > || > || > || > || > || Somewhat of a pain to setup for the first time, for sure. > || > || > || > || But after you get it implemented, you will never want to > || > || go back. > || > || > || > || One caveat: There is a fair amount of software around > || > || that *requires* tnsnames.ora or it won't work. Oracle > || > || Forms on unix comes to mind. Yes, Oracle's own software > || > || does not fully utilize names. > || > || > || > || This is a minor problem when compared to the benefits though. > || > || > || > || Jared > || > || > || > || On Friday 11 May 2001 10:50, Mohan, Ross wrote: > || > || > if the "tedious"ness exceeds your perception of the > || > || > || > || difficulty, do Names. > || > || > || > || > if not, not. > || > || > > || > || > In my very limited experience, a truly robust, > || > || > || > || well-managed Names service > || > || > || > || > is great, but takes some work to set up, test, and document. > || > || > > || > || > YMMV > || > || > > || > || > || -----Original Message----- > || > || > || From: Johnson Poovathummoottil [mailto:joni_65@yahoo.com] > || > || > || Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:15 PM > || > || > || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > || > || > || Subject: When to go for ORACLE NAMES Server > || > || > || > || > || > || > || > || > || There is another thread going on about no database on > || > || > || a single server, I have another question to ask. > || > || > || > || > || > || We have nearly 30 databases across Sun and Win 2000 > || > || > || Platforms. We are finding it tedious to keep track of > || > || > || tnsnames.ora. While looking out for a solution we hit > || > || > || at ORACLE Names server. I hear it is going to give way > || > || > || to ORACLE Internet directory. But after reading a > || > || > || little I think using either would be too much of a > || > || > || kill for the problem. > || > || > || > || > || > || Any opinions? > || > || > || > || > || > || > || > || > || __________________________________________________ > || > || > || Do You Yahoo!? > || > || > || Yahoo! 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