From Alex.Hillman@usmint.treas.gov Thu, 10 May 2001 08:33:16 -0700 From: "Hillman, Alex" Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:33:16 -0700 Subject: RE: comp.oracle.databases.server vs ORACLE-L: deathmatch Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Somehow I doubt that this list is difficult to find. Recently I saw a lot of people asking questions on this list something like where can I find Oracle docs. Alex Hillman -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:31 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I go back to the newsgroup once every 2 to 6 months, just to see what the topics tend to be there. I don't follow it, because this listserv during the day is enough I think. On the newsgroup the volume is such that I spend over an hour just deleting pieces of threads... that's another problem, my MS Outlook at home doesn't bundle threads, the entries are all broken up into separate entries. A real nuisance. The newsgroup is easy for people to find - a lot of people will head for the newsgroups first when they have a question. To reach this listserv, you almost need to know where to find it first, which means that the people on this list tend to stay for longer periods of time, and people don't dart in and out as much as on the newsgroup. Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: boivinp@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:carmichr@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: comp.oracle.databases.server vs ORACLE-L: deathmatch Ah but is there as much humor there? Not really quibbling, I was on comp.oracle.databases.server for a long time and will be going back (can you say "she won't be doing ANY work at all now"?) but how else can I LEARN?? Rachel >From: Paul Drake >Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >Subject: comp.oracle.databases.server vs ORACLE-L: deathmatch >Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:40:20 -0800 > >I have to say that the newsgroup comp.oracle.databases.server is much >more NT Friendly. >(IOUG: Did anything happen from IOUG concerning the ORACLE-NT-L mailing >list?) >Not just Jonathan Lewis, but Sybrand Baker, Howard Rodgers, Ricky >Sanchez put out some pretty good stuff. > >I'd post to the ORACLE-L from work - but its a long story. >Basically, I'm subscribed at work in DIGEST mode, but I can't get out of >it. >So I post when I get home from the home mail account that I can't use >from work. > >Yes, most of the newsgroup is junk, but lately, I'd say that the >signal-to-noise ratio is comperable to ORACLE-L. >Best thing is - its threaded. Email just plain sucks. Threading rules >(not in an OS - just in messages). > >and there's (practically) no lag. > >So in a deathmatch, the interested newsgroup readers/posters would have >won the competition 2 hours before the first post was received by all >the ORACLE-L subscribers. > >just my opinion. > >the attached is typical for the material I see in the newsgroup. > >Paul > > > > >-------- Original Message -------- >Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 04:56:31 GMT >Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband pricing hikes >http://home.com/hike_revenue_faster >Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle.server >References: > >Syltrem wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > When you shutdown an NT system, how do you ensure that the Oracle DB is > > shutdown properly? > > > > Other than connecting manually and doing a shutdown immediate, that is. >I > > would like the process of shutting down Oracle to be automatic. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > > >If you installed the Oracle Administration Assistant for Windows NT, >there is a panel that contains a radio button as to selecting the >shutdown mode ('normal','immediate','abort'). > >to access it select: > >Start - Programs - Oracle-Ora81 - Database Administration - Oracle >Administration Assistant for Windows NT > >under the 'Databases' node, right click on the particular database and >select "startup shutdown options" >in the "Oracle Instance" panel, you have a checkbox for "Shut down >instance when service is stopped" >under that is the radio button set for the shutdown options. > >click ok - and close the MMC console. > >If you are running W2K server or Pro - MMC is included. >If you are running NT4 - you need to have installed the MMC for the >Oracle Admin Asst plug-in. > >hth, > >Paul >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Paul Drake > INET: paled@home.com > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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