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You got
it: there are no people in business.....er, wait a second.
Hmm...
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><scratching head>....must be in the Linux source code here,
somewhere.....
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>:-D
<FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Rocky Welch
[mailto:rockyw_99_at_yahoo.com]Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 4:38
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:
OT NT2K vs Unix.
<SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">You're
right about that, Ross. People can use Microsoft products, businesses cannot.
Of course the world does need organized recipes and an animated paper clip to
remind them of cousin Tilly's wedding so in that regard I guess Microsoft
products are useful. :o)
"Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> wrote:
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Reboots:
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Did you realize you DO have to reboot after some Solaris package
installs? Maybe
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>not "all" and maybe not "Solaris 8", but.....certainly some of them
with kernel hooks
in
2.5.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Crashes:
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Most of them due to poor third party driver authoring -- MS, a
software company, gave
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>too much MoJo to developers. Imagine that. Same reason most of their
software
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>swamps the market. People can USE it. Shocking Development!
<G>
<FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Rocky Welch
[mailto:rockyw_99_at_yahoo.com]Sent: Thursday, February 01, 20001
3:28 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT NT2K vs Unix.
From the URL:
<A
href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/reliable/default.asp">http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/reliable/default.asp
PCs Stay Up and Running
Memory conflicts and missing or altered system files caused many of the
system crashes prior to Windows 2000. To put an end to these problems, we
changed Windows 2000 memory management to reduce the chance that software
applications will interfere with one another.
Applications runing in a seprate memory area...HMMMMMM Unix did that 15
years ago.
Fewer Reboots
Performing routine maintenance on your system requires significantly
fewer reboots, therefore less downtime, with Windows 2000. In addition,
with its support for Plug and Play, Windows 2000 automatically recognizes
and adapts to hardware changes. This means users can easily add hardware
devices such as scanners, DVD players, and speakers without rebooting, and
with less potential for user error.
Reboots are also reduced-and reliability increased-through the
Microsoft hardware device driver certification program. This program helps
ensure that hardware drivers are compatible with Windows 2000, and do not
require a reboot after installation. Certified drivers are tested and
digitally signed by Microsoft. If Windows 2000 detects a driver that
Microsoft has not digitally signed, it warns users about the risk before
they install it on their system<A
href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/solutions/overview/reliable/default.asp">
Not having to reboot after installing an application....Unix from it's
beginings.
How Much More Reliable Is
Windows 2000 Professional?
Third-party studies that assess reliability from three different
perspectives-lab-based testing, customer-site measurement, and user
perceptions-conclude that Windows 2000 Professional is the most
reliable desktop operating system.
Highest Reliability in Production Environments
<A
href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/professional/reviews/nstl.asp">NSTL
collected uptime data in the real-world environment of several
customer sites and concluded that the average system uptime between
failures of Windows 2000 Professional is 13 times more than that
of Windows 98 and three times more than that of
Windows NT Workstation 4.0.
Notice no comparison to Unix. It's like people that hangout with
socially unacceptable people to make themselves look better (Hey! Wait a
minute! Is that why alot of people want to hang out with me? ). I guess
you're right they aren't the same. Unix posts much higher numbers.
Sorry, it's sarcastic Thursdsay here. I love the debate about Windows
and Unix. ;o)
Kevin Kostyszyn <kevin_at_dulcian.com> wrote:
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<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I would disagree with that, how is Windows becoming like
Unix?
<FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----From: root_at_fatcity.com
[mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Rocky
WelchSennnt: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:01
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-LSubject: Re: OT NT2K vs
Unix.
The same prediction was made at least 5 years ago. At the rate
Microsoft is going, Windows will be a direct form of Unix. It becomes
more like it with every release.
-Rocky
"Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com>
wrote:
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Yea, but......
Win2K Datacenter will just decimate Unix. I predict
that, in 5 years, there will be two or three
Unix vendors, fighting over the 45% of the
market that DataCenter hasn't eaten.
-----Original Message----- <FONT
size=2>From: Steve Orr [<A
href="mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com">mailto:sorr_at_arzoo.com]]]]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 1:01 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE:
OT_RE:_Réf._:_Re:_asyn_i/o_on_sun_
Close. It's Dave Cutler. There's too much old
DOS/Windows backward compatibility for
WinNT/2000 to achieve stability like VMS despite Cutler's
leadership.
I knew VMS and you, Mr. NT, are no VMS!
With apologies to Senator Bentsen, <FONT
size=2>Steve Orr
-----Original Message----- <FONT
size=2>stephane Sent: Thursday, February 01,
2001 9:22 AM&&< To: Multiple
recipients of list ORACLE-L
NT is based on VMS (talk about a real OS) and if
my memory is good the guy's name is
Cutter.
Do I win a toaster ? a microwave oven ? a palm-pilot
?
--- "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com> a
écrit : > "...Standing,
corrected, and sniggering....." > Odd
picture, that...... > <FONT
size=2>> > Anyways, pop quiz:
> > On what OS kernel
technology is NT based? >
> Who was the original designer and what was
his/her > first OS? <FONT
size=2>> >
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