Re: Examples of SQL anomalies?

From: Bob Badour <>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:57:27 -0300
Message-ID: <486d919c$0$4042$>

JOG wrote:

> On Jul 3, 9:48 pm, "Brian Selzer" <> wrote:

>>>"JOG" <> wrote in message
>>>I normally accord to the definitions:
>>>information = datum + meaning
>>>datum = value + description
>>>These are useful, succinct and accord nicely with [ISO 2382-1:1984]:
>>>“Data: A representation of facts, concepts, or instructions in a
>>>normalized manner suitable for communication, interpretation, or
>>>processing by humans or by automatic means”, while giving something a
>>>bit more formalized in terms of data theory.
>>>In terms of defining value both the output of a function or the
>>>element of a set seem fine, but then defining a value as being some
>>>amount or quantity also seems fine.
>>I have a different take:
>>A value has no value except that which is assigned to it under an
>>interpretation: a value is not the output of just /any/ function, but rather
>>/the/ function that maps language terms to what those terms mean.
> that's similar to what I said no? value + description?

>>Information is just one or more values.
> so you don't incorporate a "meaning" into information? I don't think I
> could agree with you there.

>>A datum is simply a formatted value that cannot be broken down into a
>>collection of component values that means the same thing.
>>Data is just formatted information.

JOG, in case you hadn't noticed, Selzer is just making shit up as he goes along. Received on Fri Jul 04 2008 - 04:57:27 CEST

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