Re: Examples of SQL anomalies?

From: JOG <jog_at_cs.nott.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:42:33 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <5b32834f-b082-42ba-a1f5-7a94b44532ae_at_a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>


On Jul 3, 9:48 pm, "Brian Selzer" <br..._at_selzer-software.com> wrote:
> >"JOG" <j..._at_cs.nott.ac.uk> wrote in message
> >news:fc052479-4abb-415d-89fa->8cb5cd432__BEGIN_MASK_n#9g02mG7!__...__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z___at_j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >I normally accord to the definitions:
>
> >information = datum + meaning
> >datum = value + description
>
> >These are useful, succinct and accord nicely with [ISO 2382-1:1984]:
> >“Data: A representation of facts, concepts, or instructions in a
> >normalized manner suitable for communication, interpretation, or
> >processing by humans or by automatic means”, while giving something a
> >bit more formalized in terms of data theory.
>
> >In terms of defining value both the output of a function or the
> >element of a set seem fine, but then defining a value as being some
> >amount or quantity also seems fine.
>
> I have a different take:
>
> A value has no value except that which is assigned to it under an
> interpretation: a value is not the output of just /any/ function, but rather
> /the/ function that maps language terms to what those terms mean.
>

that's similar to what I said no? value + description?

> Information is just one or more values.
>

so you don't incorporate a "meaning" into information? I don't think I could agree with you there.

> A datum is simply a formatted value that cannot be broken down into a
> collection of component values that means the same thing.
>
> Data is just formatted information.
Received on Fri Jul 04 2008 - 04:42:33 CEST

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