Re: Real World (Re: Mixing OO and DB)

From: topmind <topmind_at_technologist.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:36:29 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <17f1cbd6-f600-4def-b182-c708d0ec71ec@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com>


On Mar 17, 2:19 pm, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail..._at_dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT), topmind wrote:
> > rpost wrote:
>
> >> OK, it's partly abstract and intangible, but in the end money buys
> >> you food, laws can make people go to jail, etc.
>
> > Yes, abstract ideas can *result* in tangible results. Al Kiida belief
> > that the dude upstairs will reward them with wine, women, and song for
> > twisted martyrdom is an abstract idea; but the result was planes
> > smashing into NY buildings.
>
> On the contrary, these people have quite concrete ideas, about good, evil,
> means and ends. It is for you God is an abstract idea, for them he and his
> will is *data*, recorded facts...

So if I pray to the Relational God? (As in "Coddammit!")...

>
> > which subroutines and stored procedures can perform well.
>
> You should propose a relational and declarative solution, which
> *subroutines* are clearly not. These are implementations of behavior
> decomposed into subprograms. Your claim is that there is no need in such
> thing.

No I didn't. They each compliment each other. (Maybe a more powerful relational system could do away with them, but as it stands now, we usually must mix.)

>
> --
> Regards,
> Dmitry A. Kazakovhttp://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

-T- Received on Mon Mar 17 2008 - 16:36:29 CDT

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