Re: Constraints and Functional Dependencies
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:18:52 GMT
V.J. Kumar wrote:
> "Cimode" <cimode_at_hotmail.com> wrote in
>>On 1 mar, 19:34, "V.J. Kumar" <vjkm..._at_gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>"Marshall" <marshall.spi..._at_gmail.com> wrote >>>innews:1172771092.030127.98710_at_k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: >>> >>>>On Mar 1, 6:58 am, "Walt" <wami..._at_verizon.net> wrote: >>> >>>>>I believe you are correct, but I think the syndrome goes far >>>>>deeper than you have said. Basically, the US educational system >>>>>has evolved a mthodology in which theory is quite simply not >>>>>taught at all. What passes for "theoretical discussion" in an >>>>>American classroom is really and extended introduction to the >>>>>subject matter. The subject matter itself is embodied in a series >>>>>of examples, that illustrate the real meat of what is being >>>>>taught. >>> >>>>OT Free associating: >>> >>>>Conversations with Vadim and others from his part of the world >>>>have convinced me that the point at which the average Russian >>>>student achieves US-graduate-student level mathematical >>>>education is approximately the third grade. >>> >>>This claim is pure and unmitigated bullshit, an experimental result >>>I've arrived at after having associated with many Russians that >>>purportedly had superior math education. I must admit I'd used to be >>>as misguided as you are in this respect, having been fed popular >>>myths about superiority of Russian math education. I'd say idiots >>>are more or less uniformly distributed amongst various ethnicities, >>>and their native educational systems pecularities are almost >>>irrelevant. Granted, there may be cultural influences coming from >>>parents and peers, but that's a different matter altogether. >> >>Marshall speaks specifically about academic environments not in >>general public...
> Well, as regards college level math education, if you want real stuff,
> you go to
> Princeton/Yale/Chicago/whatever_math_school_is_of_interest_to_you, not
> to some state college shithole, right ?
I did not go to a state college shithole, and I think my undergraduate education sucked.
It's all about choices you are
> willing to make provided that you are qualified to make them of course.
> If you are not qualified, tough luck, blame your parents or genes,
> anyone or anything but yourself ;)
Okay. But what if I am qualified, why can I not blame them anyway?
> In any case, monetary value of so-called "exact science" education, as
> my Russian coworkers call it for some reason, is highly overrated. You
> might be much happier and wealthier selling stuff like cars, or XML
> databases to even bigger idiots ;) For some reason, some Russians and
> Asians have not yet grasped these simple truths and are still clinging to
> the mythical value of math/physics/whatever literally beaten into them by
> their parent and teachers in their home country secondary schools with
> military style discipline and curriculum.
Why then do I know so many physicists in the software field? Received on Thu Mar 01 2007 - 22:18:52 CET