Re: Proposal: 6NF

From: paul c <toledobythesea_at_oohay.ac>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:35:33 GMT
Message-ID: <95iTg.67734$1T2.6591_at_pd7urf2no>


paul c wrote:
> Karen Hill wrote:

>> J M Davitt wrote:
>>> Karen Hill wrote:
>>>> 6NF would be a database that uses no Nulls.
>>> Um, "no nulls" is necessary for 1NF.  And I
>>> believe someone already has dibs on "6NF."
>>>
>>
>> How so?  Plenty of people have nulls in 3NF.  How is no nulls necessary
>> for 1NF?
>>

>
> I think JM is saying nulls aren't possible in 1NF, ergo not either in
> 3NF. Just because somebody thinks they have 3NF with nulls, doesn't
> mean they do, no matter what their SQL product documentation tells them.
>
> p

I guess it would have been a little more accurate to say there are some people who discredit nulls who also aren't sure if 1NF really means anything at all. I'm sort of in that camp, although I sometimes wonder if there really is a 1NF, could it be that part of its definition be that no rva could constitute, by itself, a key. That is part of my interpretation of the information principle, but I'm sure some other people would find my interpretation objectionable.

p Received on Sat Sep 30 2006 - 01:35:33 CEST

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