Re: I think that relational DBs are dead. See link to my article inside
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:51:22 +0200
Message-ID: <ea7s0o$k86$1_at_ss408.t-com.hr>
Ed Prochak wrote:
>
>>Sure. But as I stated earlier, IMHO it's not up to model, it's due to >>vast resources that have been spent on RDBMS research and development.
>
> This is the one point I cannot let pass unchallenged.
> When the Relational model was first being implemented into a DBMS
> product, the Network Model was king. There were not vast resources
> forcing the Relational Model onto the programming field. It was
> practical software engineers that saw the advantages. from that grew
> the behemouth that is now ORACLE. (at least that is what I understand
> as the main source of "vast resources" that you mention). You are not
> fighting ORACLE marketting droids in this discussion.
>
> But maybe I misread your comment. Further detail is welcome.
OK, then let's finish, techie part is over, no reason to crosspost further.
Vast resources from the above count in brain power rather than brainwashing power. Endless engineer-hours spent on r&d etc etc. Plus marketing of course.
Back in the day it wasn't Oracle but IBM who pushed the tech... IIRC all
these people (Codd, Boyce, Chamberlain... except Ellison;)) were with
IBM. [1]
BTW these days IBM had monopoly and had abused it, as was proven later.
And I know of NDB oldtimers still bitching about that:) Even calling
Codd idiot and everyone using RDBMS too:))))
(when both side fanatics call me idiot I know I'm right;))
And IMHO Network model wasn't that much of a king as you seem to think.
I.e. I had a chance to work on a PDP-11, it's RSX OS doesn't even have
directory trees, it's a 2d matrix:) Like, you cd 0,0 instead of cd /:)
I guess that designers thought of file system like file closet with
256x256 drawers for files:) Well it didn't have dir trees but it had
versioning... and integrated DBMS:) A record manager AFAIK.
Regards...
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http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/informix/redbrick/
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