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Re: Fraud Number 3: U-Gene

From: Tony D <tonyisyourpal_at_netscape.net>
Date: 21 Jun 2006 05:27:22 -0700
Message-ID: <1150892842.196447.48170@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

Cimode wrote:
> Tony D wrote:
> > Cimode wrote:
> > > > I think we are at cross purposes on the definition of variable here.
> > > > Variables come in (at least) two distinct kinds : the 3GL kind, which
> > > > is basically a name for an updateable bit of store, or the
> > > > mathematical/propositional logic place holder kind. So far, I've been
> > > > going on the basis that relvars are of the 3GL kind. Is this merely a
> > > > Tutorial D-ism ?
> >
> > > Variable and values are defined at logical abstract level not at
> > > implementation language definition level.
> > > Defining variables at implementation level produces anything but
> > > confusion...
> >
> > This is rapidly becoming circular. Can you accept that the term
> > variable is used in two different ways, *whatever level of abstraction
> > you may be talking about* ? Can you pin down, once and for all, which
> > sense of the word variable you are using ? Clearly, Tutorial D uses the
> > term "relvar" or "relation variable" in the sense of a 3GL kind of
> > updateable variable. Are you using "relvar" in the sense of a
> > mathematical, non-updateable variable ?
>
> I know since the beginning that you are defining variable at
> implementation level. I warned you about it but you don't listen.
>
> Variable can be defined and manipulated soundly only at logical level.
> Manipulating and defining them at implementation such as 3GL level
> leads only to confusion. You don't define logical models principles
> through defining implementation. Onlyt the opposite works..

Could you answer the question ? "Yes" or "no" will do fine. Received on Wed Jun 21 2006 - 07:27:22 CDT

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