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Re: OT fallacies

From: mAsterdam <mAsterdam_at_vrijdag.org>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 22:43:28 +0200
Message-ID: <4484972b$0$31643$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>


Please do not misattribute your writings to me.

Patrick May wrote:

>>>     I did not find him backing up his claims regarding
>>>Mr. Martin's "foolishness".  Can you or can you not point out a
>>>specific example of him doing so?
>>
>>>Robert Martin ha escrito:
>>>Ridiculous.  OO and RDB coexist very nicely together.  I've never
>>>heard anyone suggest that searches aren't needed.
>>
>>Relational databases have nothing to do with searches. This shows
>>profound ignorance about data management theory.

>
>
> For the record, Mr. Martin was responding to the following:
>
>
>>Many OO evangelists claim that searches are not needed in well
>>design OO applications. You have to redesign your application to
>>avoid the scenario above. Obviously reporting, etc, should not be
>>done using OOA/D.

Which, in turn, was in response to the OP, which included this remark:
> ************************
>
> In the database world, this is a simple join across two tables.
>
> *************************

Patrick May wrote:
> In this context,

The context is - at least - all of the thread leading up to the claims and all subsequent posts by both posters.

See below.

> neither of Mr. Martin's statements are prima facie
> foolish. More importantly, Mr. Novoa's response does not demonstrate
> any foolishness on Mr. Martin's part.

YMMV Context available at

http://groups.google.nl/group/comp.object/browse_frm/thread/24dfa436896b15b9/a6bc5a2211f0a796?lnk=st&q=OO+Assoc+RDBMS+models&rnum=1&hl=nl#a6bc5a2211f0a796

so those who want to form an opinion on whether any foolishness was demonstrated can judge for themselves.

[snip hypothesis] Received on Mon Jun 05 2006 - 15:43:28 CDT

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