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Re: (repost) cdt glossary 0.1.1

From: paul c <>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 01:39:10 GMT
Message-ID: <2XLgg.241302$WI1.14786@pd7tw2no>

Bob Badour wrote:

> paul c wrote:

>> mAsterdam wrote:
>>> ---------------
>>> Glossary 0.1.1: "You keep using that word.
>>> I do not think it means what
>>> February 2006 you think it means"
>>> --------------- -- Inigo Montoya
>>> Maintainer: mAsterdam
>>> Preamble:
>>> ---------------
>>> This glossary seeks to limit lengthy misunderstandings
>>> in comp.database.theory. This newsgroup uses terms from
>>> database modeling, design, implementation, operations,
>>> change management, cost sharing, productivity research,
>>> and /or basic database research.
>>> People tend to assume that words mean what they are
>>> accustomed to, and take for granted that the other
>>> posters have about the same connotations.
>>> They don't always.
> [snip]

>>> How to contribute
>>> -----------------
>>> Content:
>>> Please keep in mind that the focus of the glossary
>>> is on /real/ c.d.t. misunderstandings.
>>> Some discussions, after many sidetracks, are reducible
>>> to /just/ different meanings and connotations of a word.
>>> The differences could be resolved with just:
>>> "Ah, now I see what you meant by that; next time I'll
>>> be a little more careful in my choice of words".
>>> Such words are nice glossary candidates.
>>> Examples from the past: Address, Domain.
>>> Sometimes, though, It's not just different connotation
>>> or meaning which leads to the long winding talks
>>> without communication. These differences go down to
>>> deeply held strong opinions.
>>> Some differences in the use of words run much deeper than
>>> we can hope to clear up with just some definitions and
>>> warning signposts. They might help a little anyway, so
>>> these nastier entries are welcome, to.
>>> Examples from the past: NULL, Flat.
>>> Form:
>>> Please post your proposal as copy & pastable text,
>>> with a subject line like this:
>>> subject: cdt glossary [Identity]
>>> Please also check spelling and grammar mistaeks.
>>> Thank you for contributing.
>>> ----
>>> Milestones? For the glossary I prefer inch-pebbles.
>> Okay, don't want to risk a premature definition but here's a stab at
>> an analogy/comparison for "persistence", a word that gets under my
>> skin most of the time I see it used here:
>> If nothing changes but the time of day, what was true yesterday is
>> still true today.
>> I may be wrong to see it this way, but this is why I don't associate
>> the acronym "rdms" with persistence, necessarily.
> I don't really know who created this glossary or who contributed what. 
> However, I note that we already have a recognized standard for the bulk 
> of the terms we use, ISO/IEC 2382 Standard Vocabularies for Information 
> Technology, and I note that some of the most fundamental definitions of 
> our field in this glossary are just plain wrong. One might think a 
> self-aggrandizing ignorant like Dawn wrote them. And I suppose it should 
> come as no surprise the maintainer has proved he lacks intellectual 
> honesty.

i'll stick my neck out and say that committee definitions are usually crap.

p Received on Sun Jun 04 2006 - 20:39:10 CDT

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