Re: The wisdom of the object mentors (Was: Searching OO Associations with RDBMS Persistence Models)
From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:46 GMT
Message-ID: <SB3fg.15243$A26.355541_at_ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
>> Andrew McDonagh wrote:
>>
>>> Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrew McDonagh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The heart of the system is the data.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong - the heart of the system is information, not data.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see. You have nothing useful to contribute, so you split
>>>> hairs over some terminological difference you imagine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marshall
>>>>
>>>
>>> no - Data is (at least I hope) wildly known as being raw, Information
>>> is that Data interpreted in a meaningful way.
>>>
>>> Do you need an example?
>>
>>
>> Andrew, that definition is a fad among marketers and incompetent
>> managers. Data is the subset of information represented suitably for
>> machine processing, which is a standard definition you can find from
>> ISO. It is probably the single most fundamental and important
>> definition in computing science.
>>
>> Your ignorance of it and your sheeplike acceptance of nonsense show
>> how immature and regressive our field is right now. I suggest you try
>> to spend less time reading fashion magazines and more time learning
>> the fundamentals of your craft.
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:23:46 GMT
Message-ID: <SB3fg.15243$A26.355541_at_ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Andrew McDonagh wrote:
> Bob Badour wrote: >
>> Andrew McDonagh wrote:
>>
>>> Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrew McDonagh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The heart of the system is the data.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong - the heart of the system is information, not data.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see. You have nothing useful to contribute, so you split
>>>> hairs over some terminological difference you imagine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marshall
>>>>
>>>
>>> no - Data is (at least I hope) wildly known as being raw, Information
>>> is that Data interpreted in a meaningful way.
>>>
>>> Do you need an example?
>>
>>
>> Andrew, that definition is a fad among marketers and incompetent
>> managers. Data is the subset of information represented suitably for
>> machine processing, which is a standard definition you can find from
>> ISO. It is probably the single most fundamental and important
>> definition in computing science.
>>
>> Your ignorance of it and your sheeplike acceptance of nonsense show
>> how immature and regressive our field is right now. I suggest you try
>> to spend less time reading fashion magazines and more time learning
>> the fundamentals of your craft.
> > ouch! > > (Andrew shakes his head an continues flicking through DBMS Weekly)
I reiterate: I suggest you try to spend less time reading fashion magazines and more time learning the fundamentals of your craft. Received on Wed May 31 2006 - 00:23:46 CEST