Re: Mildly OT: dBASE IV
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:19:55 GMT
Message-ID: <LLWeg.465$ap3.241_at_news-server.bigpond.net.au>
David Cressey wrote:
> "Frank Hamersley" <terabitemightbe_at_bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:LUTeg.357$ap3.193_at_news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> I never found Access "easy" to produce a truly professional outcome (by >> my own standards).
>
> I would probably concur with you on this. I never tried to produce a
> product for a customer on Access.
I did in one case - with very limited scope. It worked and was within budget* except that budget was as per a "traditional" approach - i.e. no great productivity savings. The result was a bit sexier than a Clipper solution would have been, but no cheaper. However it required a huge level of diligence on my part to ensure everything was properly named, aligned etc. This all paid dividends later when maintenance was much easier.
> What I did with Access was "skunk works". These are products for my own
> use, that produce results I can either show to a customer, or use myself for
> decision support.
Yep - especially when Excel fades at 64k rows, Access seems OK for the next tier of row counts.
> For example, when gathering data to analyze the performance of an Rdb
> database, it can be useful to stuff the performance data into a database,
> in order to massage it. I found it to be useful to stuff in one the
> desktop, and NOT the VAX where the Rdb database was running, in order to
> reduce the Heisenberg effect.
>
> Need a one user database, that only the author can use, to massage data
> easily, and fits on the desktop, and is probably already on the desktop
> the customer provided you? Access is the ticket.
Agreed.
>>> For me, even Oracle RDBMS was a step down from DEC Rdb, as a DBMS. >>> However, as a programming environment, Oracle was a step up from Rdb. >>> >>> For the next 15 years or so, I spent helping people with Rdb and/or
> Oracle
>>> databases get more bang for the buck. Perhaps that's why my experience
> is
>>> so contrary to what Dawn recounts. >> As is most peoples. I don't discount that Dawn hasn't built workable >> solutions using Pick but that doesn't say anything about the RM. I have >> built major gizmos using Excel but that says nothing about the RM either.
>
> Too many negatives in the above for me to parse.
Apols.
> All I'm saying is that while I don't discount Dawn's anecdotal experience, I
> don't discount my own either. And my own experience does not support Dawn's
> conclusions.
Yep. I do agree with Bob on the need to stop throwing fuel on the fire though.
Cheers Frank. Received on Tue May 30 2006 - 14:19:55 CEST