Re: TRM - Morbidity has set in, or not?
From: Frank Hamersley <terabitemightbe_at_bigpond.com>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:31:07 GMT
Message-ID: <%l_8g.2625$S7.1200_at_news-server.bigpond.net.au>
>
> Curt Monash has been discussed a few times at dbdebunk.com.
>
> [This is my remembrance.]
>
> There was, a while ago, a Curt Monash online article in Computerworld
> in which he proposed a DBMS2. The tenet, as I recall, was that SQL
> databases - which he described as relational - were ill-suited for
> 'modern' data storage needs.
>
> Fabian Pascal, I believe, took him to the woodshed in a vigorous
> exchange of "comment on this article" posts that, apparently, were
> edited by some keeper of the website.
>
> Somewhere along the line, Curt brought in Chris Date's name. I don't
> recall the specifics, but it amounted to "Curt said Chris said..."
> when, in fact, Date hadn't participated at all.
>
> Date took issue with that and posted something on dbdebunk.com.
>
> Monash then obliquely engaged Date in the article you cited.
>
> {/remembrance]
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 11:31:07 GMT
Message-ID: <%l_8g.2625$S7.1200_at_news-server.bigpond.net.au>
J M Davitt wrote:
> Frank Hamersley wrote:
>> I just stumbled over this exchange from Oct 2005 on the TRM... >> >> http://www.dbms2.com/2005/10/10/17/ >> >> It was authored by a "Curt Monash" - is he known to any CDT'ers and/or >> credible? >> >> Is there any veracity in _any_ of the claims made by _any_ of the >> parties? >> >> Given lots of mud gets flung as the discussion proceeds so I wondered >> if there was any corroborative or contrary sources. >> >> Cheers, Frank.
>
> Curt Monash has been discussed a few times at dbdebunk.com.
>
> [This is my remembrance.]
>
> There was, a while ago, a Curt Monash online article in Computerworld
> in which he proposed a DBMS2. The tenet, as I recall, was that SQL
> databases - which he described as relational - were ill-suited for
> 'modern' data storage needs.
>
> Fabian Pascal, I believe, took him to the woodshed in a vigorous
> exchange of "comment on this article" posts that, apparently, were
> edited by some keeper of the website.
>
> Somewhere along the line, Curt brought in Chris Date's name. I don't
> recall the specifics, but it amounted to "Curt said Chris said..."
> when, in fact, Date hadn't participated at all.
>
> Date took issue with that and posted something on dbdebunk.com.
>
> Monash then obliquely engaged Date in the article you cited.
>
> {/remembrance]
OK - the scene is set for a scrap!
> If you read it - and have any familiarity with what was supposed to
> be Date's "Go Faster!" - you might realize that many of the criticisms
> are off-point and that everything that's presented as a revelation was
> previously and carefully disclosed by Date himself.
>
> I personally heard Date do this two summers ago...
Yup - I was particularly interest to know if the "rational market economy" had brought the TRM adventure to a sticky end?
Cheers, Frank. Received on Fri May 12 2006 - 13:31:07 CEST