Re: Lucid statement of the MV vs RM position?
From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 10:54:48 GMT
Message-ID: <YZ%5g.2549$A26.68483_at_ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
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> No, this is way off base - with ERM Chen wrote extensively about
> associative entities for example, which are _exactly_ the sort of thing
> that cannot be hit with a stick. But I don't want to get sidetracked by
> this so hey, if the colour green as an abstract entity is too out
> there, fair enough. Just substitute in something more physical into
> those original statements - fruits for the colours for example, or
> perhaps academic papers:
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 10:54:48 GMT
Message-ID: <YZ%5g.2549$A26.68483_at_ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
JOG wrote:
> dawn wrote:
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>>[chop] >>Not entities. Entities are things. It is a person, place, thing or >>event. Person, place, and event (e.g. transaction) are easy enough to >>identify. For things, if you cannot hit it with a stick or print it >>out on paper, then think twice about whether it is an entity or a >>property of an entity.
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> No, this is way off base - with ERM Chen wrote extensively about
> associative entities for example, which are _exactly_ the sort of thing
> that cannot be hit with a stick. But I don't want to get sidetracked by
> this so hey, if the colour green as an abstract entity is too out
> there, fair enough. Just substitute in something more physical into
> those original statements - fruits for the colours for example, or
> perhaps academic papers:
Keep in mind the ignorant you address is utterly incapable of abstract reasoning. Even with the concrete examples, she doesn't stand a chance of ever grasping a clue. Received on Wed May 03 2006 - 12:54:48 CEST