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Re: MV Keys (was: Key attributes with list values)

From: dawn <dawnwolthuis_at_gmail.com>
Date: 27 Feb 2006 11:48:11 -0800
Message-ID: <1141069691.618789.108890@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

David Cressey wrote:
> "dawn" <dawnwolthuis_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1141050914.811161.169690_at_u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > David Cressey wrote:
> > > "dawn" <dawnwolthuis_at_gmail.com> wrote in
> > >
> > >
> > > > Marshall Spight wrote:
> > > > > David Cressey wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The way Pick (and I presume most of the MV family) represent lists
> is
> > > > > > inherently ordered. And, whenever I ask Dawn, or any of the other
> > > Pickies
> > > > > > who dorp in form time to time whether the order in a list conveys
> > > > > > information or not, the answer is always the same:
> > > > > > "the programmer knows what the data means".
> > > >
> > > > I might have said it that way, but the way I would typically say it is
> > > > that the user knows what it means.
> > >
> > > This answers that question. But it raises another: how does a user
> share
> > > data with another user who may not (yet) know what the data means?
> >
> > I agree that this seems like a problem and I'm sure the must be times
> > when data are entered as unordered in their meaning and then when
> > presented as a list, they are interpreted as ordered. Additionally,
> > one end-user could maintain a list ordered in some way they perceive,
> > while the next person to maintain that list might be unaware of an
> > ordering and simply place new entries at the top or bottom of the list.
> >
> > For what it is worth, I do not recall any such misunderstandings in
> > working with Pick since '89. This might be due to poor recollections
> > or to such misunderstandings requiring no escalations of such issues.
>
> I thought you started with Pick in the 1990s.

It was '89 IIRC when I licensed the Datatel Colleague product for a college ERP solution, but in a mgmt role. So, it might have been the 90's before I touched it myself.

> Did you ever use Pick in a database environment?

I gather you mean compared to as an O/S? I have only used Pick in a db environment, first as INFORMATION on Pr1me computers, then UniData on AIX. I've also dabbled with UniVerse on AIX and OpenQM on Linux. None of these call themselves PICK, by the way, and I haven't used any products that have referred to themselves that way.

--dawn Received on Mon Feb 27 2006 - 13:48:11 CST

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