Re: Reminder, blatant ad

From: Jan Hidders <jan.hidders_at_REMOVETHIS.pandora.be>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:35:31 GMT
Message-ID: <T67Jf.261477$GZ.7986271@phobos.telenet-ops.be>

dawn wrote:

> mich..._at_preece.net wrote:
> 

>>You can do what you like with Pick. [...] All you have to do to
>>achieve data independence in this scenario is call a subroutine to
>>obtain REC rather than READ it directly. [...] The more
>>sophisticated development environments have parameterised options for
>>controlling this data abstraction - so that the developer need not
>>change any program code at all in changing the database design. [...]
>>
>>On the subject of the distinction between the physical and the logical
>>:- I reiterate that the clear demarkation that exists in the SQL world,
>>where the SQL engine clearly seperates one from the other, is absent in
>>Pick. Pick is entirely logical.

> 
> If Mike is right about this, that might explain my confusion, eh?  My
> thinking when I read Codd was that PICK did not have data independence
> and that it didn't matter one lick.

It's not always equally important. But you should also keep in mind that your observation might be only valid because you felt you got the job done, (so there is no problem, right?) where actually a DBMS that gave you real data independence might have helped you getting more done. Unless you fully understand what it is and what it can do for you that is hard to tell.

What I find interesting in Mike's response is that he does acknowledge that is can sometimes be important and that "more sophisticated dev. environments" offer something that goes in the right direction. So there  is apparently some appreciation of its importance in the MV world. :-) Pity about the remark about wrapping in subroutines that show that actually he doesn't understand what we are talking about here.

• Jan Hidders

Received on Thu Feb 16 2006 - 16:35:31 CST