Re: So what's null then if it's not nothing?

From: Frank Hamersley <terabitemightbe_at_bigpond.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 12:16:14 GMT
Message-ID: <iAemf.15370$ea6.14663_at_news-server.bigpond.net.au>


Jon Heggland wrote:

> In article <VVamf.15221$ea6.12170_at_news-server.bigpond.net.au>, 
> terabitemightbe_at_bigpond.com says...
> 

>>Jon Heggland wrote:
>>
>>>I don't think you have understood the nature of our discussion.
>>
>>Maybe, maybe not (pun intended)! However the fact remains that your
>>assertion herein quoted...
>>
>><Quote>There is another domain, consisting of the values
>>{TRUE, UNKNOWN, FALSE }, which I called "3VL Boolean".</Quote>
>>
>>... is nonsense! Call it what you will, the bottom line remains that
>>the Boolean domain (since well before even Socrates was a boy) has only
>>2 possible values.
> 
> You are breaking down open doors here. I called it "3VL Boolean" for 
> convenience, because I had no better name for it. I was asking for such 
> a name!

It's a poor (if not the worst) choice given the burden that use of the word Boolean confers. Of course if you drop that word the whole discussion becomes rather pointless, because a domain of (0, 1, 2) is simply a tri-state domain and does not illustrate what I assessed as a need to show problem that is NULL.

>>The gross
>>misnomer in all of this discussion is to start with an assumption that a
>>3 Value Logic system presumes a 3 Value Domain. Your bad?
>
> I blame Lukasiewicz.

I should do some reading on this sucker! Personally my (current) favourite is Nietzsche and his denial of a truly shared experience. These exchanges in these forums certainly demonstrate the truth in his claims.

> I can't make much sense of the rest of your post, sorry.

My bad. Shakespeare not I am (apols to Yoda). Basically I was saying whilst keeping anything simple is a major principal there are limits below which you should not compromise simply because of others incapacity to reach that minimum level of understanding.

The I associated the Date/Darwen pogrom to outlaw NULLS using Tut-D or the counter nVL where there is a special NULL for every occasion with flying pigs!

BTW I have noted your interest in temporal matters and given it is a major interest of mine, I plan to review your published papers in the near future. I am looking forward to it.

Cheers, Frank. Received on Fri Dec 09 2005 - 13:16:14 CET

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