Re: Modelling objects with variable number of properties in an RDBMS
Date: 2 Nov 2005 05:48:13 -0800
Message-ID: <1130939293.784399.319040_at_g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Roy Hann wrote:
> "VC" <boston103_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:P6KdnREFdtrKAfXeRVn-jQ_at_comcast.com...
> > I know that, but what recipe does Roy suggest for, let's say, MS SQL
> Server
> > that does not have either UDTs or other means to implement an entity with
> a
> > higher than the table limit number of attributes, beyond offering a cute
> > saying ?
>
> I didn't think there was any burden on me to solve someone else's specific
> problem with a specific product.
No one's asking you to do that. You said the following, " the tired
old
entity-attribute-value (EAV) design (much beloved of medical research
wonks
for some reason)"
> Nor did I think my point needed
> explaining. I had imagined it was just common sense. Evidently I was
> mistaken, for which I apologize. Let me explain now:
>
> When we have a pretty good solution with many well-known virtues then it is
> not sensible to abandon it until we demonstrate that some alternative is
> actually better than all other conceivable possibilities. Otherwise we are
> just picking a random alternative with no rational basis on which to prefer
> it.
>
> For instance, is EAV better than a non-loss decomposition of a 3,000
> attribute table into six 500 attribute tables? That is clearly less elegant
> than the single big table but it at least allows us to continue using SQL
> and the power of the SQL DBMS.
I was not the SQL Server EAV solution designer, but when talking to the person who reluctantly went with EAV, I could not offer a better alternative.
> These questions and more need to be tested before hoisting EAV onto our
> shoulders for a heroes welcome. (There is no burden on me to answer them
> because I am not proposing to use EAV.)
The project I am talking about went through many painful iterations with multiple tables. Their testing showed that EAV appears to be at least an acceptabe solution in their cicumstances.
There is a burden on you because you did not offer a sensible alternative after having rejected EAV in toto.
>
> Roy
Received on Wed Nov 02 2005 - 14:48:13 CET