Re: dbdebunk 'Quote of Week' comment

From: Dan <>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 10:51:51 -0500
Message-ID: <senNe.32$>

On 8/19/2005 10:15 AM, Alex Papadimoulis wrote:

>>I have found I can use surrogate keys and
>>suffer none of the grief you attribute to them.
>>I guess I should declare 27 years of involvement

> In my travels, I have been to all corners of North America. I've been
> atop mountans. I've peered out of skyscraper. I've even flown in a
> plane. With all my traveling experience, I have yet to find any
> evidence whatsoever that the earth is round; as far as I can tell, it's
> flat as a board (moutants et al withstanding).

Ever watch a ship disappear over the horizon?

> Despite my personal observations, I have not joined the Flat Earth
> Society. I rely on the expertise of others to mathematically prove a
> round earth. I trust the experience of those who have personally
> observed that the earth is in fact round.
> When you teach yourself something, you end up relying on your own
> observations and assumptions. When you rely on what you know, you lose
> out on volumes of collective knowledge and experience. Had you not read
> it in a science book, do you really think you'd come to the conclusion
> that the earth is round?
> The same holds true for databases. When a programmer self-teaches
> himself databases, he applies his own experience: procedural
> programming. This is what happened in the fifties when there were no
> databases and, therefore, no experience or expertise to go by.
> Programmers back then modeled data exactly like you do now: like a
> programmer.
> Fifty years, the data field has made a lot of progress. The best model
> we have now is the relational model. One of the fundamentals of this
> model is that data do not need to be accessed by pointers (meaningless
> keys); they can be accessed (and related) by their value.
> When you ignore this fundamental, your model becomes closer and closer
> to the ineffective ways of the past. Worse still, you lose the tools
> they had back then (IDMS pointer functions, for example) to keep their
> models running. As Santayana said, "Those who cannot remember the past
> are condemned to repeat it."
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