Re: ncoa processing

From: Kenneth Downs <firstinit.lastname_at_lastnameplusfam.net>
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 09:54:50 -0400
Message-ID: <ajq8kc.ojv.ln@mercury.downsfam.net>

Paul wrote:

> Kenneth Downs wrote:

>>>i need to do list processing and found a site called
>>>www.listadvantage.com . Has anyone heard of them? the site looks good
>>>and very easy to use, it also has a full online interface for a self
>>>service which i like. this is my first time doing this process, anyone
>>>have some feedback or exp for me?

> >

>> Normally posts like this are disguised advertisements.  Are you
>> advertising
>> that you are a licensed NCOA processor?  Last I heard they were not
>> giving
>> out more licenses.  Are you willing to risk that valuable license with
>> false posts?

>
> A WHOIS for listadvantage.com gives:
>
> Administrative Contact:
> Adlman, Evan evan_at_parkavemedia.com
> Park Avenue Media
> 99 Park Avenue
> #346A
> New York, New York 10016
> United States
> 2128683384
>
> and the original post was from eadlman_at_yahoo.com
>
> So I think that is fairly conclusive proof that this is astroturfing
> spam and that everyone should avoid listadvantage.com and their shitty
> service. You'd think the very least they would do is sign up for a
> throwaway email address first. Not exactly a good advertisement for them
> if they can't even do this right!
>
> Unless of course it's a "joe-job" by one of their competitors, but I
> doubt it.
>
> Paul.

Looking at the headers more closely, I see that it's posted through Google, suggesting he is not a regular Usenet user, and he has not of course followed up. Alas, it seems the price of free speech is a lot of noise.

But to conclude what he is actually selling, I happened to be on the phone with my old boss from the days when I was in that business, and he knows every NCOA licensee off the top of his head. He knows conclusively that listadvantage is not an NCOA licensee.

That means they would take your order, bundle it up with others, and get a discount price from someone who is actually licensed to do it. Still a better deal than you or I could get on our own, but the astro-turfing is pretty tacky.

-- 
Kenneth Downs
Use first initial plus last name at last name plus literal "fam.net" to
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Received on Sat Oct 09 2004 - 08:54:50 CDT