Re: database systems and organizational intelligence

From: Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corsetti Dutra <leandro_at_dutra.fastmail.fm>
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 18:33:27 -0300
Message-ID: <pan.2004.05.31.21.33.26.531232_at_dutra.fastmail.fm>


Em Fri, 28 May 2004 20:37:08 +0000, Eric Kaun escreveu:

> Yes, exactly. I think it's a true RDBMS, but it doesn't matter.

        What exactly would be a true RDBMS?

> until I write ERK

        ERK being...?

> True, but so many of the libraries are awkward. Reflection, for example, is
> so awkward that someone had to invent aspect-oriented programming to deal
> with it (yes, that's a gross oversimplification). Compare with Lisp/Scheme,
> which essentially give you seamless ability to drop in new code, and to
> manage it like your existing code - as data in lists.

        Now imagine a Lisp only with relations instead of lists...

> None of us have, although I'd still be interested to hear more from those
> who dealt with old network databases as SQL was coming to the forefront...
> SQL was embraced as solving problems, but did it? Did it solve some and
> introduce new ones?

        SQL is hugely superior to everything before it. In xBase, ISAM, CODASYL, IMS you had to program your way around. No optimiser, no declarations, no ad hoc end-users...

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