Re: data & code
From: x <x-false_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:25:25 +0300
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> > "mAsterdam" <mAsterdam_at_vrijdag.org> wrote in message
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> > > x wrote:
> > > > Alfredo Novoa wrote:
> > > >>Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote:
> > > >>>I'm really curious what the huge distinction is (as
> > > >>>in "totally different").
> > > >>
> > > >>They have nothing in common.
> > > >>
> > > >>>Much of the data that I see queried is derived.
> > > >>
> > > >>And code is a way to specify the derivation rules.
> > > >>It has nothing to do with data.
> > > >
> > > > How do you call this:
> > > > 31 c0 b9 10 00 40 01 c0 49 e3 fb
> > >
> > > I don't know what Alfredo would call it.
> > > I'ld call it a meaningless string of characters.
> > >
> > > It looks somewhat like a part of hexdump,
> > > and I might (if I were in another mood) even try
> > > to ASCII or EBCDIC decode it under that assumption.
> > > It might make sense in some language (probably english
> > > or some programming language in this context).
> > >
> > > As it is, it is neither code nor data.
> > >
> > > glossary - code
> > > glossary - data
> > >
> > > Some (e.g. prolog) don't care about the difference.
> > > Some (e.g. NIAM/ORM) don't care about what they have in common.
> > >
> > > Does anybody dare to try to give some
> > > reasonably acceptable descriptions?
> >
> > Citation from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_program
> >
> > Some speakers distinguish between data that describes a computer program
> > data that does not describe a computer program; the former is called a
> > "program", and the latter "data". However, this distinction between
> > "program" and "data" is difficult to describe precisely, since all data
> > be regarded as implementing a program, depending on how it is processed.
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:25:25 +0300
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"Dawn M. Wolthuis" <dwolt_at_tincat-group.com> wrote in message news:c94fck$sls$1_at_news.netins.net...
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> > "mAsterdam" <mAsterdam_at_vrijdag.org> wrote in message
> > news:40b51e92$0$37789$e4fe514c_at_news.xs4all.nl...
> > > x wrote:
> > > > Alfredo Novoa wrote:
> > > >>Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote:
> > > >>>I'm really curious what the huge distinction is (as
> > > >>>in "totally different").
> > > >>
> > > >>They have nothing in common.
> > > >>
> > > >>>Much of the data that I see queried is derived.
> > > >>
> > > >>And code is a way to specify the derivation rules.
> > > >>It has nothing to do with data.
> > > >
> > > > How do you call this:
> > > > 31 c0 b9 10 00 40 01 c0 49 e3 fb
> > >
> > > I don't know what Alfredo would call it.
> > > I'ld call it a meaningless string of characters.
> > >
> > > It looks somewhat like a part of hexdump,
> > > and I might (if I were in another mood) even try
> > > to ASCII or EBCDIC decode it under that assumption.
> > > It might make sense in some language (probably english
> > > or some programming language in this context).
> > >
> > > As it is, it is neither code nor data.
> > >
> > > glossary - code
> > > glossary - data
> > >
> > > Some (e.g. prolog) don't care about the difference.
> > > Some (e.g. NIAM/ORM) don't care about what they have in common.
> > >
> > > Does anybody dare to try to give some
> > > reasonably acceptable descriptions?
> >
> > Citation from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_program
> >
> > Some speakers distinguish between data that describes a computer program
> and
> > data that does not describe a computer program; the former is called a
> > "program", and the latter "data". However, this distinction between
> > "program" and "data" is difficult to describe precisely, since all data
> can
> > be regarded as implementing a program, depending on how it is processed.
> > Very good. So, mountain man's "Organizational Intelligence" is the set of > all data?
I don't know what he think when he say "Organizational Intelligence".
It could mean the secret service of an organization :-)
But I think the term mean the information, knowledge, wisdom that enable an
organization to learn, adapt, react and survive.
Or perhaps the soul of an organization.
And we keep trying to computerize that :-)
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