Re: Pizza Example

From: Anthony W. Youngman <>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 23:11:24 +0100
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In message <c57407$qn6$>, Dawn M. Wolthuis <> writes
>Well, I know several text book answers -- for example, using an RDBMS makes
>changes to software database applications less expensive and less risky. My
>experience tells me the opposite.
>Then there is the text book answer that says that "relational theory" is
>based on mathematics and logic and a relation is the simplest form of
>construct that fully addresses data modeling, therefore, it must be right.
>I have pointed out that a mathematical model is simply a metaphor and that
>there is nothing mathematical about the statement that the simplest model is
>the best.

And without scientific evidence to show that the maths is *relevant*, who gives a sh*t if the maths is perfectly correct. If it disagrees with reality, the fact that it is "correct" is useless.
>The text book might indicate that using a DBMS provides us with constraint
>logic that protects the integrity of the database not just from end-user
>data, but from the mistakes of application software developers, thus helping
>us have a DBMS that is not specific to a single application. I have
>personal experience with several instances where this is true, but a lot
>more where it either didn't matter or where having such constraints
>specified made software developers "code around" the constraints.

And how often is that "protection" worthless, because the DBA is also the programmer? Quite often, I suspect :-)


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