# Re: Date's First Great Blunder

From: mAsterdam <mAsterdam_at_vrijdag.org>

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:17:03 +0200

Message-ID: <407edfb2$0$562$e4fe514c_at_news.xs4all.nl>

> Yes, formal representations of a metaphore for whatever in the "real world"

> Simpler to human beings? Simpler to computers? Simpler to work with

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:17:03 +0200

Message-ID: <407edfb2$0$562$e4fe514c_at_news.xs4all.nl>

Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote:

> Alfredo Novoa wrote:

>> Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote: >> >>>...Mathematical models are simply models/metaphores. >>They are formal representations.

> Yes, formal representations of a metaphore for whatever in the "real world"

*> they are applied to**>*>>>The discipline of "doing" relational theory >>>could be seen as mathematics, but the application of this >>>mathematics to the discipline of application software >>>development has to do with a belief that this mathematical model >>>has something to do with the engineering effort underway. >> >>It should not have relationship with beliefs. It is proven that it is >>simpler than the known alternatives.

*>**>*> Simpler to human beings? Simpler to computers? Simpler to work with

*> mathematically? This is a RELIGIOUS BELIEF that if you take the simplest**> mathematical model (aka metaphor) for something, then that is the best. I**> could use a point as a mathematical model for God or use a more complicated**> model of a triangle. I prefer the triangle metaphor because it is helpful**> for describing a trinitarian view of God. A point is surely simpler than a**> triangle, however. That doesn't mean it is the best metaphor to choose.*Yup. Unfortunately some of these religions are so secretive that even the believers don't all know that they are. I am sure I have some (a lot - who knows?) of those beliefs. One of my unfounded beliefs I *am* aware of is that if people try to understand and respect eachother, they will.

[snipalot]

> That's really a matter of defining terms. ...

How about a c.d.theory glossary ? Received on Thu Apr 15 2004 - 21:17:03 CEST