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Re: Order & meaning in a proposition

From: Dawn M. Wolthuis <dwolt_at_tincat-group.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:33:40 -0500
Message-ID: <c4um5p$mbe$1@news.netins.net>


"Lemming" <thiswillbounce_at_bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:p9m570l8m4orquis3a9ndi7h4ojnfhhg06_at_4ax.com...
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:46:19 -0700, "Tom Hester" <$$tom_at_metadata.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Lemming" <thiswillbounce_at_bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:o1i570dni7ed6aa7me49npn6h31278lqie_at_4ax.com...
> >> On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:06:25 -0700, "Tom Hester" <$$tom_at_metadata.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Lemming" <thiswillbounce_at_bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> >news:dk8570p9lapb8kh7uar9psihtat6ojgh07_at_4ax.com...
> >> >> On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:02:30 -0500, "Dawn M. Wolthuis"
> >> >> <dwolt_at_tincat-group.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >Pat is the host who seated the President and the Secretary of the
> >> >Interior
> >> >Yes, that is called conversational implicature; and it is part of the
> >> >meaning of the sentence. That is, a hearer may conventionally
conclude
> >that
> >> >the guests were seated in that order.
> >>
> >> This "hearer" didn't. I've learned not to make assumptions on the
> >> basis of statements which are open to interpretation.
> >What I said was not an assumption but a fact. Read a little pragmatics
if
> >you don't believe me.
>
> I have to hold my hand up and say I haven't even heard of pragmatics
> as a discipline, so I hope you'll forgive me if what I say from this
> point is naive. That said, here goes...

"Pragmantics" as a discipline is both in linguistics and semiotics. I only know that because my father is a linguist and my daughter is studying semiotics. It gives a perspective to the work of capturing of propositions that is not found in logic studies alone.

--dawm Received on Tue Apr 06 2004 - 11:33:40 CDT

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