Re: Is mysql a RDBMS ?

From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_golden.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:24:45 -0400
Message-ID: <U9r3b.72$Br4.10705055_at_mantis.golden.net>


"Christopher Browne" <cbbrowne_at_acm.org> wrote in message news:bil8gl$anhtd$1_at_ID-125932.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw when "Mikito Harakiri"
<mikharakiri_at_ywho.com> would write:
> > In general, yes, you are formally right, SQL is not quite The Best
> > Relational Model Representative. But, everybody on this group is
> > aware of that, and some may find that reiterating the same old
> > arguments is just annoying. I'm including a brilliant post from
> > David Cressey summarizing that idea:
> >
> > <quote>
> > People have been saying that "real Christianity has never been
> > tried" for two thousand years now.
> >
> > People have been saying that "real communism has never been tried"
> > for about a hundred and fifty years.
> >
> > Don't expect people to stop saying that "A real relational system has
never
> > been implemented". You will just be disappointed.
> > </quote>
>
> I think that's a pretty good way of putting things. I also think
> Chesterton put it pretty well too :-).
>
> There are some things about SQL that aren't "ideal," just as there are
> things in organized churches that are not ideal.
>
> Absent of something that is _actually available_ as a better
> alternative to SQL, we're going to have "make do" by trying to use SQL
> as well as we can.
>
> That means, amongst other things that we need to at least try to
> discourage SQL usage that is sufficiently badly-framed that it can
> reasonably be considered, um, "heretical." :-)
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> "Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found
> difficult and not tried." -- G.K. Chesterton

The problem with the relational model is that it has never been found difficult. It has been assumed difficult and not tried. Received on Thu Aug 28 2003 - 18:24:45 CEST

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