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Re: Who yields - client or developer? Your opinion

From: Tom Ellison <tellison_at_jcdoyle.com>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 01:30:57 -0500
Message-ID: <3CF475A1.F6F26656@jcdoyle.com>


Dear Graham:

I was not thinking of putting the Eval() not only in a query, but in a formula on your form that calculates the quantity extension.

What isn't working about it?

Tom Ellison
Microsoft Access MVP

Graham Bellamy wrote:

> Thank you all for your comments. Especially to Tom Ellison for going further and offering
> a solution suggestion (though not being able to use Eval() in my queries puts a big
> stopper on this), and to Albert D. Kallal for so bluntly showing me the folley of my
> question. However I would like to remind readers that not everybody (especially me) is a
> professional at db creation, and that some (me included) don't do this for a living. Being
> a rookie, as I mentioned, I have never done a 'functional spec of features', wouldn't have
> a clue on how much time it would take me to create the certain features I was after.
> Lacking experience, I also lack the foresight of all that would need to be included to get
> what I want. I am treating this project as a learning experience. I have not quoted a
> fixed price for a finished product. The customer has agreed to view the project along the
> way, and decide if, and how far, he wants me to continue till the next point.
> I won't try to validate my original post, as I know it's flawed in concept. If the
> customer wants it, you should be able to tell him how much time (=cost) it will require.
> Then it's over to him. At the moment, I am not able to do that. So I guess I accept the
> forthcoming headache, and try to figure out a way to do what I need. And if I can't.. the
> customer won't get it.
>
> ...I might start looking for a Toyota - and see if I can put a sunroof in it :)
> Humbly,
> Graham
>
> "Albert D. Kallal" <kallal_at_msn.com> wrote in message
> news:f_0H8.123769$GG6.10471190_at_news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > "Tom Ellison" <tellison_at_jcdoyle.com> wrote in message
> > news:3CEC7EFD.8F3B0D8E_at_jcdoyle.com...
> >
> > > - the hard line on price ruins relationships with the customer and doesn't
> > lead
> > > to further work.
> > >
> > > - a good product can't be built on a fixed bottom line, and I won't build
> > > anything less
> > >
> >
> > The above two points are very good points indeed. So many projects fail due
> > to the lack of resources (time and money). Hence, to do something right,
> > ones needs enough time. You of course are telling me that you want to build
> > good software, and that is a very good attitude.
> >
> > However, the reality is that we all have to live with limits. The reality is
> > that we all must deal with deadlines. The results of this is that we have to
> > build a "function spec". We also have to limit the features we want. If we
> > did not have budgets, and did not have deadlines, then there would be no
> > problems.
> >
> > I perhaps was a bit tough on the original post in this thread. However, it
> > really is my desire to point out that everything ones does, and every
> > feature added does cost time. One simply cannot ignore the fact that
> > features = cost = time.
> >
> > The answer to the original question is much easer then to explain what the
> > Matrix is....
> >
> > I good article on specs can be found at:
> >
> > http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000036.html
> > --
> > Albert D. Kallal
> > Edmonton, Alberta Canada
> > kallal_at_msn.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
Received on Wed May 29 2002 - 01:30:57 CDT

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