Re: Internet search engines and databases

From: <jameschenjin_at_my-deja.com>
Date: 2000/04/16
Message-ID: <8dbncj$2r2$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1


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James

In article <8bvoic$sej$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com>,   mallagent_at_my-deja.com wrote:
> Thank you Tony for your interests. To answer your question, no, we do
> not query beyond what is given on each site published data contents.
> The reasons are obvious, one, it is illegal to do that without consent
> from each site, two, it will involve a hell lot of additional efforts
> if we can do that. BUT, don't restrict yourself when you talk about
> accessing databases across the Internet to just conventional
> databases. Think about the published HTML pages from each site are
> actually databases themselves, just in somewhat un-regulated format
 and
> far from relational. Our site http://www.mallagent.com is a working
> example of querying the entire Internet and aggregating different data
> sources (un-related HTML pages). Non-confidential description? We
> don't have one yet. We may take this off the board and exchange
 emails
> later.
>
> In article <38E3382E.3109D085_at_attglobal.net>,
> tony_fulford_at_attglobal.net wrote:
> > I did visit your site (http://www.mallagent.com) and it was
> > worthwhile.
> >
> > It appears you utilize other search engines in obtaining
> > some of your results. Do you actually access any of the
> > "databases" of the web sites or only the content which is
> > readily available?
> >
> > Myself, and others, would like to see a non-confidential
> > description of your methods and techniques.
> >
> > Thanks for the response.
> > ___________________________________________________________
> >
> > mallagent_at_my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > > You have raised some excellent points. Take a
> > > look at www.mallagent.com. We are doing exactly
> > > what you are asking for, an XML-based dynamic
> > > querying site to bring multiple database search
> > > results on one page. Our database is the whole
> > > Internet.
> > >
> > > In article <08ec726e.812ee423_at_usw-ex0102-
> > > 014.remarq.com>,
> > > Tony Fulford
> > > <tony_fulfordNOtoSPAM_at_ibm.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > I would like to start a new thread to discuss
 the future of
> > > > searching
> > > > the internet.
> > > >
> > > > Internet search engines utilize the accessible
 content of a
> > > > website to
> > > > generate their search results. More and more
 website content is
> > > > being
> > > > placed in databases and served dynamically to
 users as required.
> > > > The
> > > > information in these databases is not available
 to search engines
> > > > because the databases have security mechanisms
 (e.g., username &
> > > > password) to prevent access. As more and more
 websites become
> > > > based on
> > > > information contained in databases, the search
 results be come
> > > > increasingly sparse and inaccurate.
> > > >
> > > > I have already found that when I want to find
 an item, a
> > > > particular
> > > > model computer printer (using model number for
 the search) for
> > > > example,
> > > > I will not get a hit from many websites via the
 search engines,
> > > > yet if I
> > > > go to the websites and search, I do get a
 search hit. So where
> > > > will this
> > > > leave us for comparison shopping for products.
> > > >
> > > > Are web search engines going to be relegated to
 providing search
> > > > results
> > > > from websites which only have static content?
> > > >
> > > > Are there ways to let search engines have
 access to databases
> > > > without
> > > > giving away the store (i.e., family jewels)?
> > > >
> > > > If we give search engines access to the
 databases, how do they
> > > > know how
> > > > to search them (e.g., databases, tables,
 columns, etc.)?
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible to generate an XML standard
 which would allow
> > > > general
> > > > access to most databases?
> > > >
> > > > Do we need some standards for databases which
 want to participate
> > > > with
> > > > search engines?
> > > >
> > > > The future of internet navigation and true
 competitive x-commerce
> > > > depends on resolution of this problem. Let's
 get started!
> > > >
> > > > Tony Fulford
> > > > Business User Software
> > > >
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