Re: WTD: Oracle DBA Cert classes w/ Cert pass guarantee - OCP test prep class?

bbcrock_at_hotmail.com (D) wrote in message news:<22e171df.0312291512.268f87ae_at_posting.google.com>...
> I have a hard time reading your email because of the misspellings, but
> in general I prefer being an entry-level trainer because you can bring
> people up to speed very quickly. If it paid, I would probably try to
> teach college. You aren't a trainer or probably even a manager based
> on your comments.

It can pay: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20031122-9999_1mi22ccbeat.html plus a bunch of students throwing lucrative consulting at you.

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> When I taught in the dotcom boom we had a requirements test and if
> people couldn't pass then we wouldn't let them take the higher level
> classes. I have no idea what you are talking about promising people
> jobs.

I think he just has it in for all the training scams out there, and rightly so. They prey on people out of work with the promise of high paying DBA work. DBA work (or at least, competent DBA work) isn't really something you can learn in an entry level class. And certainly the Oracle OCP classes taught by rote, as many are, are Oracle's version of the scam. Google cdo.server for OCP to understand more. In fact, this group doesn't officially exist, see the charter, you would likely get far more response in a real group.

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> > > c) get me one step further to certify to teach oracle classes (I used
> > > to be a trainer in the dotcom boom)
 

> > if your going to be an entry level training, then your going to be a
> > loser like all those other trainers. they pray on people out of work
> > or trying to make career switches. make them think they will get jobs.
> > they wont get interviews.
> > Those classes are a scam. Just like the OCP classes.

Everyone has to start somewhere. Helps to have good English skills. It is possible to be a good trainer without being deep into Oracle, but that is even more rare than an Oracle expert who has good training skills. To be good, you have to be sprightly with online examples and demonstrations, and that usually requires both experience and practice, especially for DBA subjects. Oracle Corp tries to take MSCS's and train them to present and train, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Experience seems to be the difference.

I am not a trainer.

jg

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