Re: capture oracle pwd change in 3rd party application. help needed

From: Anurag Varma <avdbi_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:45:10 GMT
Message-ID: <GY9rb.5374$hB5.5102_at_nwrdny02.gnilink.net>


Daniel,
 
I think I did reply you offline .. but not sure if the mail reached you.
 
Anyway, I realized that the email I was using to mail from this location
was wrong.
 
My email is: avdbi_at_hotmail.com
 
Anurag
"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:1068311431.525724_at_yasure...
Anurag Varma wrote:
 
Pete Finnigan wrote:
        My objection is that it would take me a matter of minutes to 
      
   make myself an account on another 
   machine on which I had no permissions. It is a hacker's delight.
    

Hi Daniel,

I think there is another point to make here is that we are not
implementing this but just discussing possible solutions without knowing
the application or architecture, tools, requirements etc.... I would say
that a script to synchronise password hash values should be run in a
secure manner and also would not add new accounts, just synchronise old
ones. I would also re-iterate this isn't the way to fix an issue like
this, why does this application need to have synchronised access to two
databases? and why isn't the manufacturer involved. 

kind regards

Pete
  
My personal opinion? The person asking the question is trying to crack a database.
I've never seen an application with this architecture in 34 years in the business.

I'd really like to be wrong.
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Actually one of the databases I manage runs on an application which does
something similar (Not the synchronization .. but the way it creates application accounts ...
by creating an Oracle account). The application being Bladerunner.
If you ever get a chance .. run (really fast) away from it.
:0)
Anurag
 
I'll do that.

BTW: I've tried to email you off-line and failed. Please send me your actual email address off-line. Thanks.
-- 
Daniel Morgan
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