Re: Oracle to double hiring of Indians

From: Iain Brown <iain.brown_at_uk.thalesgroup.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:09:01 +0100
Message-ID: <bf15fi$rlg$1_at_rdel.co.uk>


Some of these responses smell of fear...

The most developed societies have always needed to do the most high-tech jobs in order to compensate for their high labour costs. And if India is getting itself an IT (and call-centre) sector, then good for them. And they should get paid a decent wage for it too...

Besides, if you're good enough, you shouldn't have to worry...

Either that or work in defence ;-)

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> > > > Yes, this is most wonderful news.
> > > >
> > > > Because Indians work for one-forth the cost of UK people, I hope to
> > > > see Indians take a much larger share of Oracle jobs for companies
> > > > across the world.
> > > >
> > > > Oracle DBA people can work remotely from Bangalore, saving Oracle
> > > > customers billions of pounds in labour costs.
> > >
> > > A most annoying development. Indian people employed by Oracle have
> > > learned to follow a script, instead of learning to think, and their
> > > lack of politeness is appalling.
> > > The dire consequences will be seen soon.
> > > I don't hope to see Oracle support being taken over by trained
> > > monkeys.
> > >
> > > Sybrand Bakker
> > > Senior Oracle DBA
> >
> > I think India has one of the most gracious and competent people in the
> > world. What makes you think that they're not so?

>
>

> Practical experience. Calling me with my last name only has to be
> considered rude, and just ignoring the customer considers the
> experienced behavior of Oracle as a bug is definitely
> customer-unfriendly. As the experienced behavior was connecting to an
> incorrect instance due to incorrect configuration for the MTS
> parameters, and it was not apparent from the docs the configuration
> was incorect, and the rep didn't want to do anything about it, the
> whole experience was most annoying.
> My own experience in other companies with Indians is also, that
> anything which is written down in a book must be the ultimate truth.
> So usually you have a hard time convincing them they are wrong, and
> they can be quite stubborn.
> I don't share your judgement with respect to their competencey, I'd
> rather don't want to work with Indians again.
> As far as I am concerned this is a bad move (tm) which Oracle is going
> to pay for.
>

> Sybrand Bakker
> Senior Oracle DBA
Received on Tue Jul 15 2003 - 17:09:01 CEST

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