Re: Oracle to double hiring of Indians

I share your experiences. In the past, during the Y2K boom, you could find the Indians all over the globe, with mainly fake resumes and 'countrymen buddies' helping them; brother became dba, after that even father and 3 sisters followed to become 'sudden' senior-dba's, etc... you know. I have met 'professionals' who were completely, and I mean really dumbass, unaware of practical lifetime situations. They did everything to get out of their miserable country, even if it means lying and cheating...

On the other hand; some are excellent. So dont blame them all. Its just that there are too many of them, and many of them LIE and cannot be trusted.

Remember: same miserable thing happened with Baan company. Complete dumbass indians jumped into the ship with fake resumes. See what happened with that company! If Oracle is doing the same, it will end sooner or later with angry customers, and dropping sharevalues, unless Oracle has strong quality control. Lets hope for the latter.

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> > > > Yes, this is most wonderful news.
> > > >
> > > > Because Indians work for one-forth the cost of UK people, I hope to
> > > > see Indians take a much larger share of Oracle jobs for companies
> > > > across the world.
> > > >
> > > > Oracle DBA people can work remotely from Bangalore, saving Oracle
> > > > customers billions of pounds in labour costs.
> > >
> > > A most annoying development. Indian people employed by Oracle have
> > > learned to follow a script, instead of learning to think, and their
> > > lack of politeness is appalling.
> > > The dire consequences will be seen soon.
> > > I don't hope to see Oracle support being taken over by trained
> > > monkeys.
> > >
> > > Sybrand Bakker
> > > Senior Oracle DBA
> >
> > I think India has one of the most gracious and competent people in the
> > world. What makes you think that they're not so?
>
>
> Practical experience. Calling me with my last name only has to be
> considered rude, and just ignoring the customer considers the
> experienced behavior of Oracle as a bug is definitely
> customer-unfriendly. As the experienced behavior was connecting to an
> incorrect instance due to incorrect configuration for the MTS
> parameters, and it was not apparent from the docs the configuration
> was incorect, and the rep didn't want to do anything about it, the
> whole experience was most annoying.
> My own experience in other companies with Indians is also, that
> anything which is written down in a book must be the ultimate truth.
> So usually you have a hard time convincing them they are wrong, and
> they can be quite stubborn.
> I don't share your judgement with respect to their competencey, I'd
> rather don't want to work with Indians again.
> As far as I am concerned this is a bad move (tm) which Oracle is going
> to pay for.
>
> Sybrand Bakker
> Senior Oracle DBA
Received on Tue Jul 15 2003 - 18:21:21 CEST