Re: Do you have end-users like this?
Date: 1 Jul 2003 10:04:03 -0700
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sybrandb_at_yahoo.com wrote in message news:<a1d154f4.0306302342.280118ba_at_posting.google.com>...
> rgaffuri_at_cox.net (Ryan Gaffuri) wrote in message news:<1efdad5b.0306300937.66f8d877_at_posting.google.com>...
> > hap_at_mikomi.org (Adam Hapworth) wrote in message news:<a6cb04db.0306300648.43337078_at_posting.google.com>...
> > > Jonathan1234 <member31800_at_dbforums.com> wrote in message news:<3054936.1056849647_at_dbforums.com>...
> > > > Very funny!
> > > >
> > > > I've definitely has the IT wannabe end-users and they drive me nuts.
> > >
> > > Here is the perfect t-shirt for those meetngs with the Users
> > >
> > > http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/coder/595d/zoom/
> > >
> > > Adam
> >
> > i think a negative view users is a real detriment to a project. Ive
> > found that most end users are reasonable.
> >
> > As if you are an expert in everything? I think that is a real flaw
> > with alot of technical people. The holier than thou arrogant view
> > towards users. Ive also found it problematic on projects where people
> > who are specialists in one thing are arrogant about that skill and do
> > not like to discuss it with people who are specialists in something
> > else.
> >
> > The way I look at is that end-users pay my salary. If they get
> > intolerable its time to find a new job. If not, then I have to deal
> > with it.
>
>
> Obviously you haven't been exposed to the real morons.
> I can assure you : there are LOTS of them in the REAL world.
> I have found that way too many users are *un*reasonable, installing
> crap applications with NO RI defined, always blaming the DBA when
> *anything* goes wrong, often blaming the mess *they* caused on the
> DBA.
>
> Sybrand Bakker
> Senior Oracle DBA
yeah i know what you mean. if it ever got that bad for me, Id be looking for another job. Most users are smart. I have noticed alot of arrogant technical people that talk down to users and its stupid since they pay the bills.
what we get is nothing compared to what the technical support guys get. You ever talk to them about some of the stories? One guy told me a woman held a piece of paper up to her screen and it wouldnt fax it. Another guy did that for the navy and he told me when CDs first came out the people he worked with thought they were coffee holders.
I dont think technical people are any smarter than anyone else. We are just trained in a narrow skillset.
sybrand-- im assuming you did us government contracting... yeah they are bad. but its not because they are users, its because they are government bureacrats. Ive found the private sector people to be far more reasonable. Received on Tue Jul 01 2003 - 19:04:03 CEST