Re: OCP Exams & Self Test Software

From: <xbguan_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 1999/08/18
Message-ID: <7pctaj$rvh$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com>

I think one should be able to find an Oracle job with an OPC, maybe a developer position to start with.

In article <7p9us3$6ne$1_at_garnet.nbnet.nb.ca>, "D Parent" <dgparent_at_nb.sympatico.ca> wrote:
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> Well I sure am glad to find out the industry consensus is that the =
> Certification is useless after all the time and effort I have devoted
to =
> passing the first 3 Exams. When I first inquired about this back in =
> February no-one in this newsgroup seemed to have any negative
comments, =
> unfortunately I have been in Bosnia since then and have not been able
to =
> keep up. Well at least I have, or will have, a piece of paper saying I
=
> am Certified. It seems to me that this would be a good start towards =
> finding employment at the entry level any way. Between my
certification =
> and my use of Oracle 7 Server for WinNT on my personal computer I hope
=
> someone gives me a chance to prove my worth. Hopefully the MS
newsgroup =
> will be more forth coming with regards to the worth of the MSDBA =
> certification.
> D Parent
>
> Paul Apollo <papollo_at_abacus.bates.edu> wrote in message =
> news:37B86F3E.FA694994_at_abacus.bates.edu...
> This is precisely the reason I asked if the exams and certification
=
> were both worth pursuing. The consensus is that unless you're an HR =
> type looking to hire Oracle people, the certification is pretty much =
> useless. I received many notes off-group relating the same sentiment.
=
> Thanks for the warning.=20
> Martin wrote:=20
>
> Your lack of experience - yet ability to pass the test , is not a
=
> reflection=20
> on the=20
> quality of the STSware exams - more a reflection of the low level
at =
> which=20
> the=20
> certification exams are pitched.=20
> I speak as a certified DBA and Developer with over 13years =
> experience of=20
> Oracle=20
> in real life! I make no slight on your personal ability - only on
=
> the=20
> farcical nature of=20
> the Oracle Certifications - if they are to be taken seriously in
the =
>
> industry, they need=20
> to be seriously re-visited by those responsible for creating
them.=20
>
> Hope your listening ORACLE.=20
>
> --=20
> Regards=20
> Martin Jones=20
> --------------------------------------------=20
> OCP - DBA=20
> OCP - Application Developer=20
> ---------------------------------------------=20
> Doug Parent <dgparent_at_nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message=20
> news:7osjjk$dla$1_at_garnet.nbnet.nb.ca...=20
> > I passed the first 2 exams in the Oracle DBA tract using the =
> Oracle=20
> > Certification Guide and the STSWare Practice questions. Before =
> February of=20
> > this year I had never even heard of Oracle and had, and still =
> don't have,=20
> > any practical experience using it, I think this speaks volumes
for =
> the=20
> > STSWare practice questions they are worth every penny.=20
> > Van Messner <vmessner_at_netaxis.com> wrote in message=20
> > news:xLpr3.3292$RD5.90579_at_typ11...=20
> > > I have used the NETG/Oracle CDs. The sample questions on the
=
> disks are=20
> > very=20
> > > like the questions on the tests. There are four CDs - one for
=
> each of=20
> the=20
> > > exams. I have an Oracle 7 set for sale at $1100. A new set =
> from Oracle=20
> > > runs around $2500.=20
> > >=20
> > > Van=20
> > >=20
> > > Sunny <sunnyj_at_home.com> wrote in message=20
> > > news:U03r3.18296$B5.163467_at_news1.rdc1.bc.home.com...=20
> > > > Is there anyone who has used the Self Test Software for =
> practice exams=20
> > for=20
> > > > OCP.=20
> > > > Which one have you used the DBA or Developer practice
exams?=20
> > > > What was your experience with them=20
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> >
>
> =20
> --=20
> Paul Apollo=20
> Bates College Information Services=20
> 207-786-6430=20
> papollo_at_abacus.bates.edu=20
> =20
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> <DIV>Well I sure am glad to find out the =
> industry=20
> consensus is that the Certification is useless after all the time and
=
> effort I=20
> have devoted to passing the first 3 Exams. When I first inquired
=
> about this=20
> back in February no-one in this newsgroup seemed to have any negative
=
> comments,=20
> unfortunately I have been in Bosnia since then and have not been able
to =
> keep=20
> up. Well at least I have, or will have, a piece of paper saying I am =
> Certified.=20
> It seems to me that this would be a good start towards finding =
> employment at the=20
> entry level any way. Between my certification and my use of Oracle 7 =
> Server for=20
> WinNT on my personal computer I hope someone gives me a chance to
prove =
> my=20
> worth.  Hopefully the MS newsgroup will be more forth coming with
=
> regards=20
> to the worth of the MSDBA certification.</DIV>
> <DIV>D Parent</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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> <DIV>Paul Apollo <<A=20
> =
>

href=3D"mailto:papollo_at_abacus.bates.edu">papollo_at_abacus.bates.edu</A>&gt ;=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>

href=3D"news:37B86F3E.FA694994_at_abacus.bates.edu">news:37B86F3E.FA694994@ a=
> bacus.bates.edu</A>...</DIV>This=20
> is precisely the reason I asked if the exams and certification were
=
> both worth=20
> pursuing.  The consensus is that unless you're an HR type
looking =
> to hire=20
> Oracle people, the certification is pretty much useless.  I =
> received many=20
> notes off-group relating the same sentiment.  Thanks for the =
> warning.=20
>
> Martin wrote:=20
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">Your lack of experience - yet ability to =
> pass the=20
> test , is not a reflection on the quality of the STSware =
> exams -=20
> more a reflection of the low level at which the =
> certification exams=20
> are pitched.=20
> I speak as a certified DBA and Developer with over 13years =
> experience of=20
> Oracle in real life!  I make no slight on your
personal =
> ability=20
> - only on the farcical nature of the Oracle Certifications

=
> if they=20
> are to be taken seriously in the industry, they need to be
=
> seriously=20
> re-visited by those responsible for creating them.=20
> Hope your listening ORACLE.=20
> -- Regards Martin Jones=20
> -------------------------------------------- OCP - DBA =
> OCP -=20
> Application Developer =
> ---------------------------------------------=20
> Doug Parent <dgparent_at_nb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
=
> <A=20
> =
>
href=3D"news:7osjjk$dla$1_at_garnet.nbnet.nb.ca">news:7osjjk$dla$1_at_garnet.n b=
> net.nb.ca</A>...=20
> > I passed the first 2 exams in the Oracle DBA tract using
=
> the Oracle=20
> > Certification Guide and the STSWare Practice questions. =
> Before=20
> February of > this year I had never even heard of Oracle
and =
> had, and=20
> still don't have, > any practical experience using it, I =
> think this=20
> speaks volumes for the > STSWare practice questions they
are =
> worth=20
> every penny. > Van Messner <vmessner_at_netaxis.com>
wrote =
> in=20
> message > <A=20
> =
>
href=3D"news:xLpr3.3292$RD5.90579_at_typ11">news:xLpr3.3292$RD5.90579_at_typ11 <=
> /A>...=20
> > > I have used the NETG/Oracle CDs.  The sample =
> questions on=20
> the disks are > very > > like the questions on
the=20
> tests.  There are four CDs - one for each of the >
=
> >=20
> exams.  I have an Oracle 7 set for sale at $1100.  A new
=
> set from=20
> Oracle > > runs around $2500. > > >
> =
> Van=20
> > > > > Sunny <sunnyj_at_home.com> wrote in
=
> message=20
> > > <A=20
> =
>
href=3D"news:U03r3.18296$B5.163467_at_news1.rdc1.bc.home.com">news:U03r3.18 2=
> 96$B5.163467_at_news1.rdc1.bc.home.com</A>...=20
> > > > Is there anyone who has used the Self Test =
> Software for=20
> practice exams > for > > > OCP. > >
=
> > Which=20
> one have you used the DBA or Developer practice exams? >
> =
> >=20
> What was your experience with them > > > >
> =
> >=20
> > > > > >
 ></BLOCKQUOTE>  =
>
> -- Paul Apollo Bates College Information Services =
> 207-786-6430=20
> papollo_at_abacus.bates.edu   =
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