Re: Oracle headed for Legal Trouble

>gordonh_at_acslink.net.au (Gordon E. Hooker) wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> Yes great statement, but you didn't say why you have to load all the
> other stuff.
>
> Are some of the structures needed?
>
> Is it a licensing issue?
>
> Have you signed a contract that states you must have the
> infrastructure in place to include the other modules?
>
> Just curious...
>
> >For almost all of the past week I've been going rounds with
> >Oracle on a subject that might interest some of you. Oracle as
> >a corporation has taken the position that if you purchase and
> >install a single financial system (GL) you must also install the
> >databases and stored procedures for all of there other systems.
> >I am told by many in Oracle support that, and here's a quote from
> >at least 4 people in support) 'That's the way it is and there's
> >nothing you can do about it' (Now there's some good customer
> >relations).
> >So in effect what there telling you is Oracle is so big now they
> >can prevent you from installing third party software and there's
> >nothing you can do about it.
> >If Oracle persists on this hardline stance I think the US Attorney
> >Generals office should be asked to investigate Oracle. These large
> >software companies cannot be allowed to tell you what you can or
> >cannot put on your computer systems.
> >
> >Richard Mendoza (rmendoza_at_titan.com)
> >My Views are my own and DO NOT reflect those of Titan Corp.

To answer your questions.

Apparently to compile the stored procedures for the system you want all the stored procedures from all systems must be present. (sounds like poor design to me). These stored procedures that Oracle claims are never executed take up 200m of system tablespace. And extend the installation time from 6 hours to 30 hours.

To answer your other questions, No there is no agreement that we must load all there software. This is a new position that oracle is taking, and they claim they are taking it to expidite upgrades. Which probably has a grain of truth in it. Because if they know you have to have everything when upgrade time comes around they just upgrade everything instead of just the one product. Sounds flimsy to me.
What I suspect the true motive is, is to prevent you from installing third party software. Which it does very nicely.

You last point about licensing, they also make it a point to tell you you are not licensed to run any of the code that they have forced you to load.

Richard Mendoza(rmendoza_at_titan.com)

My view are my own and DO NOT reflect those of TITAN CORP. Received on Thu Dec 21 1995 - 00:00:00 CET