Re: ORACLE7/VMS patch, who's fault?
From: <pihlab_at_cbr.hhcs.gov.au>
Date: 9 Dec 93 12:43:52 +1000
Message-ID: <1993Dec9.124352.1_at_cbr.hhcs.gov.au>
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> From: pihlab_at_cbr.hhcb.gov.au (Bruce Pihlamae):
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> From Max Magliaro:
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> Bruce,
> DEC really didn't try to make it sound like an ORACLE bug. If I
> gave that impression, then I must correct myself here. DEC
> simply stated they had a paging bug that showed up alot on ORACLE
> applications because they tended to page a lot. They in no way
> attempted to *Blame* ORACLE or skirt their responsibility.
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> --- Max
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Date: 9 Dec 93 12:43:52 +1000
Message-ID: <1993Dec9.124352.1_at_cbr.hhcs.gov.au>
In article <1993Dec6.180004.20732_at_icf.hrb.com>, mmm_at_icf.hrb.com (MAX M. MAGLIARO) writes:
> From mmm_at_icf.hrb.com (Max Magliaro):
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>>> I am having problems running ORACLE 7.0.13 on an Alpha/AXP with OpenVMS 1.5 . >>> ORACLE randomly aborts with 600 or 602 (access violation or internal >>> exception) errors. I have just discovered that there is a Virtual >>> Memory Mgmt patch to OpenVMS 1.5. >>> >>> From DEC: Many users running ORACLE applications on Alphas experienced this >>> problem. It turned out that the VMS page manager occasionally >>> pulled in the wrong page when it moved pages in and out of >>> a program's virtual space. Since ORACLE is such a page happy, >>> resource-hungry monster, it pages a *lot* and experienced the >>> problem. >>
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> From: pihlab_at_cbr.hhcb.gov.au (Bruce Pihlamae):
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>> Gee. They make it sound like a bug in Oracle don't they. Well, I guess >> if that darn Oracle software didn't page at all it would work just fine >> on our new Digital/Alpha hardware & software. I sure hope they don't use >> any application software that pages too much at any hospitals that run this >> "VMS page manager" otherwise it could void the warranty of a few patients >> BUT that's the application's fault isn't it 8^}. >> >> -- >> Bruce... pihlab_at_cbr.hhcs.gov.au >>
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> From Max Magliaro:
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> Bruce,
> DEC really didn't try to make it sound like an ORACLE bug. If I
> gave that impression, then I must correct myself here. DEC
> simply stated they had a paging bug that showed up alot on ORACLE
> applications because they tended to page a lot. They in no way
> attempted to *Blame* ORACLE or skirt their responsibility.
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> --- Max
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Yeah? Guess it must have been the mood I was in when I read it or perhaps
the DEC quote "Since ORACLE is such a page happy, resource-hungry monster, it pages a *lot* and experienced the problem.". ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's just that I hear them bagging their competitors so often that it gets to be a knee jerk reaction. Well, looks like we'll have to upgrade our VAX'en again shortly to keep that well behaved ALLIN1 rabbit running.
Please ignore me ... I have an attitude problem.
8^} 8^} 8^} BE HAPPY. >>> BAHHHH HUMBUG ! <<<< -- Bruce... pihlab_at_cbr.hhcs.gov.au
"If you swallow a live frog first thing in the morning ... Nothing worse will happen to either of you for the rest of the day."
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