Re: ORACLE: I'm MAD AS HELL and I'm not going to take it anymore!

The following post was found in the COMP.DATABASES newsgroup and I thought that
most of you could relate to this guy's frustration. I am hoping that someone from Oracle Corp. with authority can do something about Oracle's installation procedures.

First impression tends to last a LONG LONG time!!! Good product. Bad Distribution.

In article <1993Mar4.165613.12251_at_pentagon-gw.army.mil>, mark_at_pentagon-gw.army.mil (Mark Le Vea) writes:
> I would like t know the names of the trolls who wrote the installation
> program for Oracle.
>
> SYNTAX ERRORS on scripts that you must key in verbatim. Does anyone know how
> to shell program at ORACLE? Of course you are told to run the entire
> installation in the Bourne Shell (including scripts?). They run in the
> "C" shell but I doubt they work. SEE MAKES DIE.
>
> DEFAULT SETTINGS cause the installation program to overfill the database
> and die. Great planning folks!
>
> MAKES DIE in the middle of the installation. Of course they tell you to run
> the scripts (mentioned above) to fix a make problem.
>
> PREMATURE EOF ON TAPES is the message you get instead of the software you
> payed for. Of course if you manipulate the tape manually you can get the
> code off it. Try a figure that one out.
>
> FIXING THEIR PROGRAMS is what's in store if you try to install the patches.
>
> DOCUMENTATION ERRORS are usually reasonably acceptable but when the docs
> tell you to go off and do a whole bunch of work that you don't need to do
> and the interface tells you something else.... GGRRRRRR!!!!
>
> WATCH YOUR BACK! If you have an environment set up using a .cshrc and a
> .login,
> the install saves your .cshrc to .cshrc.old but blows away your .login
> completely. And the best part is the new .login calls ORACLE_HOME before it
> is declared in the .cshrc and then does not execute so you get ZIP for an
> environment. What a concept!
>
> THE BEST PART is when you have to sit there for three hours, hitting a
> return
> every 10 minutes (or it won't continue), then coming within ten minutes of a
> > successful installation and having the thing fail. You can't redo the
> oracle.install cuz it finds the old DB file. If you remove the file then it
> dies because it can't shutdown the database.
>
> AND THESE PEOPLE ARE LAUGHING ALL WAY TO THE BANK!
>
> WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FOR $12 GRAND THESE DAYS?
>
> Does anyone at ORACLE know how much BAD QUALITY costs?
>
> Thank you and have a pleasant day :-)
> --
> Mark Le Vea
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