Re: HTML DB users?
From: Mark C. Stock <mcstockX_at_Xenquery>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:32:50 -0400
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 10:32:50 -0400
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"Sean Chang" <sean_at_cnfei.com> wrote in message
news:414ae1ce$1_3_at_corp.newsgroups.com...
| I have done a small production site by using
HTMLDB, one word: awesome!!!
| I have used Oracle OAS4, IAS1, 9iASR2... Jdeveloper, nothing
| works good like HtmlDB. I would say HTMLDB is the only
| Oracle Product after database itself really works right away from version1.
| ( I have not used Oracle Forms version 1, I know it works version 3)
|
| Please look here for my posts:
| http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jsp?forum=137&thread=239382&tstart=105&trange=15
| http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jsp?forum=137&thread=261617&message=794157#794157
| for more interesting discussion.
|
| sean
|
| "Mark C. Stock" <mcstockX_at_Xenquery .com> wrote in message
| news:YvadnZOxVfNDKdjcRVn-hQ_at_comcast.com...
| > not much discussion about HTML DB recently
| >
| > anybody out there attempting to use it for anything at all?
| >
| > ++ mcs
| >
| >
|
| I have used Oracle OAS4, IAS1, 9iASR2... Jdeveloper, nothing
| works good like HtmlDB. I would say HTMLDB is the only
| Oracle Product after database itself really works right away from version1.
| ( I have not used Oracle Forms version 1, I know it works version 3)
|
| Please look here for my posts:
| http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jsp?forum=137&thread=239382&tstart=105&trange=15
| http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jsp?forum=137&thread=261617&message=794157#794157
| for more interesting discussion.
|
| sean
|
| "Mark C. Stock" <mcstockX_at_Xenquery .com> wrote in message
| news:YvadnZOxVfNDKdjcRVn-hQ_at_comcast.com...
| > not much discussion about HTML DB recently
| >
| > anybody out there attempting to use it for anything at all?
| >
| > ++ mcs
| >
| >
|
Thanks, Sean.
In my initial review of generated forms, I found a
lot of deficiencies... I'm sure some of them are simply a matter of working with
the product longer, and some is probably a matter of product maturity.
Would you care to comment on these. I don't think
I'm being too picky, if this is supposed to be an declarative 'as easy as
Access' app builder, I would expect it would handle this kind of stuff. Also,
I'd be interested if you wouldn't mind itemizing what you feel are its
strengths.
- No default LOVs for FKs
- No checks for data changes before allowing navigation
- Database errors displayed on separate screen -- link to return to edit page is not very apparent
- Pop-up calendar does not highlight current date or currently selected date
- No option to display PK values in generated forms?
- No client-side validation -- no readily apparent JavaScript support?
- Inconsistent functionality of 'CREATE' buttons -- sometimes means NEW, sometimes means SAVE
- No option to refresh edit page after checksum error (checksum error is really, really ugly)
- Generated forms for each of multiple tables all created with the same name (Update,Insert,Report,Success)
- User-defined validations are at page level, not shared among pages
- Data picker format is inflexible (does not analyze user input and do intelligent conversion)
- Uses full page refreshes instead of frames or DHTML
- No apparent settings for simple client-side validations like INPUT item maximum length (should at least default to VARCHAR2 length)
- Buttons scroll of page (no frames or DHTML to keep buttons visible)
- Mouse-centric (most users don't have 3 hands)
- No search capabilities in the online help
- 'Apply Changes' behavior is inconsistent -- sometimes closes page, sometimes not
Thanks!
++ mcs