Re: Free database tools announcements - invitation to discussion

Norman Dunbar <Norman_at_JUNKTHISBIT.Bountiful.Demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<a8kgd05g2hn321dg3t8nej0eeainau7s8u_at_4ax.com>...
> Ok, here's my take on the matter - as a non-spamming somewhat less
> than regular poster.
>
> I never look at CDO.Marketplace - it has no relevance to me in the UK.
> Whan I have looked at it (oops, that breaks my 'never' definition I
> suppose) it has been full of jobs for Oracle people in the USA. No
> good to me, it's not a place I ever plan to visit.
>
> I don't use tools that have been advertised here either. I may go and
> have a look at the web site (rare) or even download one or two of them
> (very rare) but if I need a toll I use TOAD or write my own. The joys
> of having a development past !
>
> I do loath and detest the way that (almost ?) every poster who
> posts/spams (delete as appropriate) this non-marketplace NG screams
> abuse when asked to go elsewhere - what's the big deal. If Marketplace
> was full of stuff other than bleeding US jobs, I might be tempted to
> look there.
>
> Can someone please answer Daniel's question - what's wrong with
> marketplace ?

[Quoted] yes I'd like to see that responded to also. The closest has been that .marketplace is not frequently visited as .tools is.

My response has been that the difference is not great enough to warrant poluting the other oracle groups with announcements. Unfortunately, neitherside has hard numbers to determine this eaither way.
>
> On the other hand, what's also wrong with a new (or renamed)
> marketplace split into CDOM.jobs and CDOM.freestuff and even
> CDOM.stuff where tools of the kind mentioned can be freely advertised
> in the appropriate NG. It works on the Borland NGs - and if you post
> the wrong thing there you get seriously shat on by TeamB.
>
> The difference between CDO and Borland NGs is that the Borland ones
> are monitored by TeamB and no crap gets through - there's no/very
> little personal abuse, no religous crap, no nothing that isn't related
> to the NG title. They do have an off-topic NG for all the crap stuff
> and that can be quite 'lively' at times.
>
> Spammers will refuse to obey the rules of any NG, so I personally
> think that Daniel is wasting his time. On the other hand, you could
> have said that about the people trying to abolish slavery (they're
> geting there !) or about Martin Luther King etc.
>
> So in summary,
>
> CDOM.jobs, CDOM.freestuff, CDOM.stuff are required.
> This is not a marketplace.
> And Spammers can go fcuk themselves :o) (Apologies to the real FCUK
> company for blatant misuse of their advertising campaign !)
>
>
> Cheers from round the side of the firewall.
> Norman.
>
>
>
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Received on Wed Jun 23 2004 - 20:31:56 CEST