Re: Free database tools announcements - invitation to discussion

From: jhking <jhking_at_airmail.net>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:34:19 -0500
Message-ID: <cb9muh$oi9_at_library2.airnews.net>


Daniel Morgan wrote:

> And how do you propose we separate "it is for money today" from "it will
> be for money tomorrow"?
I suspect you're just carping now, as I doubt that anything I say will change your mind, nevertheless: since we can't predict the future trying to police against software that might be charged for later is not   practicable.
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[Quoted] >> It would disallow book announcements and ebay offerings and most 
>> seminars.

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> On what grounds? Isn't it inconvenient to have to look through
> c.d.o.marketplace for them?
You asked for a rule, I suggested a rule: If its for money it goes in marketplace.
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> Not for most of us. So where do we announce user group meetings? Free
> seminars? Oracle Technology Day events? Microsoft Technology Days?
Since Oracle posts here already us saying they can or they can't won't have much effect. Our house rules aren't likely to affect MS if they decide to start spamming the c.d.o hierarchy either.

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> Actually it does. The fact that when I attach the word spam to every
> attempt to do so the spammers scream so loudly indicates that they are
> being hurt by pointing out what they do.
And we wind up with days where a substantial portion of the traffic on this group is about "yes its spam" "no it isn't". That's what really annoys me and what I'm trying to end.

> The convention nowhere I've ever been is to ignore spammers.
What we are having, I think, is a discussion about whether people giving away Oracle related products are spammers. I say no.
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> Of which several of them are people that have previously spammed this
> group and not one of which is a regular contributor that has helped
> others when they've had questions.
I'll grant you you've answered lots more question than I have, and some of mine, for which I thank you, but I have answered questions when I knew the answers. I'm not as knowledgeable in Oracle as, say, you or Sybrand and if I don't know I figure the questioner is better off if I don't just give a wild-a**ed guess.
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> c.d.o.marketplace gets, at most, 2-3 posts per day. If you looked every
> day the inconvenience would be less than 5 seconds. Is your life that
> full of panic that you can't invest 5 seconds to fight spam?
It's primarily the long "you're a spammer" "no I'm not discussions" that annoy me.
> So how about a free tool from Microsoft to migrate from Oracle to SQL
> Server ... would that be appropriate? How about one from IBM?
If it were free, and posted about 1/month its no big deal. I'm not likely to use it, but some folks here might find it useful. If they do one those every day deals (like the guy with the report writer was doing a while back) that's spamming, free or no. Received on Tue Jun 22 2004 - 18:34:19 CEST

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