Re: sqlReview - free tool for FREE DBAs

From: Ron <>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:01:08 -0800
Message-ID: <>

Hello Daniel,

[Quoted] [Quoted]   I believe what you did is unethical. You just leave many DBAs with no [Quoted] chance to have a good tool in their toolbox.

  SQL Review is a free, not commercial tool and it does not belong to, where it would be ignored by 99% of the DBAs who may need it.

  Please, read below charter of the c.d.o groups. It is clearly indicates that these group is for discussion of software applications and tools. Also, there are no one word that anyhow limits the group participants.


CHARTER: - "discussion of software applications and tools available from Oracle Corporation, or designed to work with Oracle applications. "

"CHARTER:" - Discussions of software and applications designed to aid in database administration should be carried in this group.

 Please, use you energy to help people and create tools, not to destroy.

 Let's use our power to create things.

 With this, I believe our discussion is over.


  DBA Infopower
  Standard disclaimer:

"Daniel Morgan" <> wrote in message news:1076562874.332856_at_yasure...
> Ron wrote:
> > Hello Daniel,
> >
> > I am surprised of your talent to misinterpret anything positive, that
> > done by companies.
> Spam is not positive. It is a curse upon the internet.
> > I would expect this kind of behavior from a Russian communist, not
from a
> > colleague DBA.
> Russian Communists are gone. Spammers are not.
> > As I mentioned before, legally a company has the same right to share
> > help and experience that anyone else has.
> Not in a usenet group in violation of that group's charter.
> What you have demonstrated is a flagrant and willful disregard for the
> group's charter? Did you actually read it? Do you just have some sense
> of entitlement ... like others built this group and now you get to
> use it any way you wish? Has it occurred to you that other commercial
> companies will see your spam and think they too can do the same?
> You are a for-profit company. There is a place set aside specifically
> to meet your needs while keeping the other groups clean of spam. You
> have been respectfully and politely informed of that fact and you have
> chosen to ignore it. Could you have posted this message in the
> appropriate group, made friends, been respected, and everyone would have
> seen it. Yes!
> But now you've managed to anger many and build up what is likely a good
> steaming head of testosterone and adrenaline feeling like a victim. Why
> won't they let me do what they won't let anyone else do either?
> Sorry ... but spam is spam is spam. And the fact that you make something
> available for free does not change the fact.
> As proof ... you might note that when Oracle itself, just a week ago
> offered something here for free ... they too were asked to apologize and
> move. Unlike you, however, they did. And as a sign of my displeasure ...
> over your rudeness the Puget Sound Oracle Users Group has now removed a
> link to your company from its web site. And that just cost you almost
> two thousand possible referrals each and every day. Bad acts ... have
> consequences. I would suggest you reconsider your attitude and post
> where appropriate. If you are truly helping people ... post where-ever.
> But if you are posting on behalf of your company ... follow the rules.
> Thank you.
> --
> Daniel Morgan
> (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
Received on Thu Feb 12 2004 - 08:01:08 CET

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