Re: Oracle Forms 6i and 9i

This may sound strange but I'm beginning to think that Oracle doesn't actually want you to use forms. They want it to be a dead product and their wish is to have everyone using Jdeveloper. Removing Client Server and forcing us to use their very expensive application server is a sure fire way to turn people off forms. The thing is that Oracles attitude doesn't make me want to turn to Jdeveloper, it makes me want to turn away from Oracle.

Zafer <zafer_at_redshift.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.02.25.22.00.32.430769.2656_at_redshift.com>...
> I have posted a question on the OTN forms forum regarding a light version
> of 9iAS EE for just forms/reports deployment at a reduced cost. I also
> asked Oracle marketing folks why they do not market forms and/or reports
> as separate tools as they do for JDeveloper (so that those who might want
> to use 9i forms and/or reports do not have to purchase the entire 9iDS
> package). An Oracle employee politely told me to shut up and I did so with a
> closing remark ;)
>
> Interestingly enough, I saw your posting on this message board indicating
> that one of the JDeveloper 9i handbook authors did say that Forms is a
> dead product and Oracle is putting everything they have into JDeveloper.
>
> I also realized that some companies (most of them Oracle partners) around
> the world (such as Artinsoft and Informatikatelier) are now offering
> porting services from forms to java/xml (and some of these tools are working as
> plugins to JDeveloper 9i).
>
> Eventhough it is a very nice product and we want to continue to use it,
> after the fading away of forms/reports developer 6i, the final client/server
> version of the tool, we will find alternatives instead of using the
> 9iDS/9iAS EE (enterprise edition) combination.
>
> It was my independent conclusion, given the existing licensing policy for 9i
> forms/reports and 9iAS EE, that 9i forms/reports is no longer a feasible
> product for small size companies and small size applications.
>
> note: you can view my original posting on OTN forms forum and add your
> comments.
>
> Best regards
>
> Zafer AKTAN
> Oracle DBA/Developer
>
>
>
>
> On 25 Feb 2003 00:32:07 -0800, nimonic wrote:
>
> > I had a quick look at "The JDeveloper 3 Handbook" when I was down at
> > Borders the other day. It looks good. It has comparisons of the
> > differences between Forms and Jdeveloper. It's by Peter Koletzke and
> > Paul Dorsey the guys that wrote the "Developer Advanced Forms & Reports"
> > book. They have a JDeveloper 9i Handbook out also.
> >
> > Interestingly one of these guys (I can't remember who) said on the OTUG
> > forum that Forms is a dinosaur and basically a dead product and that
> > Oracle is putting everything they have into JDeveloper. When these guys
> > speak I think it's wise to listen.
Received on Fri Feb 28 2003 - 09:47:06 CET