Re: New SqlPlus type utility available for download
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 15:58:28 GMT
Message-ID: <3D6A4EAF.8ED7E8FF_at_shaw.ca.invalid>
Another point to note.
[Quoted] [Quoted] Christopher Jones of Oracle (Aus.) has been involved in these newsgroups
[Quoted] since at least 1994, offering SQL*Plus advice and tips etc. I have been
[Quoted] in touch with him before, and he is a very reasonable and courteous
person. If you have any suggestions or criticisms of SQL*Plus (or
iSQL*Plus), I am absolutely positive that he will appreciate hearing
them - for the betterment of the product.
Give it a try, everyone gains that way.
Cheers,
Bricklen
Jennifer wrote:
>
> Christopher.Jones_at_oracle.comX wrote in message
>
> > > You ARE kidding right? That thing is a piece of crap. QSqlPlus is
> > > under 600K, fast, support Sql*Plus, and ISNT a web interface nor is is
> > > Java, why would anyone resort to iSQL*Plus? Unless they just enjoy
> > > pain. Or maybe they are billing by the hour.
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback. iSQL*Plus and Toad certainly have
> > differently goals and therefore meet different needs.
>
> I wasn't aware that *any* tools from Oracle met any needs. No one who
> uses TOAD's debugger goes back to Proc Builder -- including most of
> Oracle's own consulting division. And TOAD DBA vs OEM? There is no
> comparison whatsoever. And even *if* someone inside of Oracle learns
> how to spell gui, unless they drop this Java and web crap, they can't
> compete against tools that have twice the features, updates thrice a
> year, and load a second after being launched.
>
> Everything I've tried from Oracle lately looks like crap (all the Java
> based stuff), is sluggish once loaded, and requires a coffee break
> just to get them loaded.
>
> It's funny. I met the Toad-dude at OOW last year and asked who his
> largest users was and he told me Oracle Consulting. Only they mostly
> arent willing to admit it or pay for it.
Received on Mon Aug 26 2002 - 17:58:28 CEST