Re: Look for second hand licences for Toad 7.2.0.0 and PowerAMC 8.0.1.2.7.5

From: damorgan <dan.morgan_at_ci.seattle.wa.us>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:47:59 GMT
Message-ID: <3C6AA6D4.6FE332FF_at_ci.seattle.wa.us>


Such matters are clearly dealt with in the Oracle license document distributed with the CD. No doubt everyone here has read it and agreed to it before installing the software and thus contractually obligating themselves to its terms.

(yeah right!)

Daniel Morgan

Jeff Kish wrote:

> Seems to me that if you want to sell your license, and you will not
> actually be using the product any more (uninstalling it), that there
> is little actual theft.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:13:56 GMT, damorgan
> <dan.morgan_at_ci.seattle.wa.us> wrote:
>
> >The simplest example of exactly how enforceable software licenses are,
> >internationally, is that Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and our friend Larry are able
> >to order the Caesar Salad rather than just getting the dinner salad that comes
> >with their meals.
> >
> >If the licenses could not be enforced ... every major corporation would spend
> >$39 at store.oracle.com to obtain its software. Our friend in France ... is just
> >whining because he was seen for what he is.
> >
> >Daniel Morgan
> >
> >
> >
> >Niall Litchfield wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting. I'd alsoways understood that contract terms such as
> >>
> >> "<vendor> hereby grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable right to <use
> >> software>" were legally binding. I'd be interested to see the precedent and
> >> wonder why no-one has challenged MS on this.
> >>
> >> I am of course only a DBA and not a lawyer
> >>
> >> --
> >> Niall Litchfield
> >> Oracle DBA
> >> Audit Commission UK
> >> *****************************************
> >> Please include version and platform
> >> and SQL where applicable
> >> It makes life easier and increases the
> >> likelihood of a good answer
> >>
> >> ******************************************
> >> "Calvin Crumrine" <Calvin_Crumrine_at_dced.state.ak.us> wrote in message
> >> news:3C67F3A9.BCFCFA33_at_dced.state.ak.us...
> >> > Sorry, but you *can* sell a license, just as you can sub-let an apartment.
> >> True,
> >> > in some cases the vendors/landlords write contracts that prohibit this,
> >> but most
> >> > such contracts have been held to be illegal in the US.
> >> >
> >> > Niall Litchfield wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Daniels point is that software isn't a product that you have purchased -
> >> it
> >> > > is a product you have a license to use. Consequently selling it on is
> >> > > illegal. the analogy with used goods just falls over because of the wayu
> >> > > software is licensed not sold.
> >> >
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