Re: Thanks for the reply

From: Justin <justin_at_ca.ca>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:15:42 -0800
Message-ID: <UQl58.24845$f53.1138049_at_news20.bellglobal.com>


Daniel,

    You call it mental challenge, I'd rather call it work like a dog, or cheap labor. The mental challenge should be being Enron CEO, put a few politicians in your pocket, the world is yours :-))

Justin

"Daniel A. Morgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message news:3C5521E3.205E6F0_at_exesolutions.com...
> And that is exactly why I prefer being a development DBA. I like the
continuing
> mental challenges. But don't say 'nothing can be automated'. With built-in
> packages such as DBMS_JOB, DBMS_SMTP, DBMS_PIPE, DBMS_FTP, and UTL_FILE a
> phenomenal amount of stuff can be automated if one chooses to invest the
time
> and effort.
>
> Daniel Morgan
>
>
>
> Justin wrote:
>
> > Daniel,
> > I totally agree with you, and that's why I want to be a DBA, instead
of a
> > programmer, as a programmer, there isn't much stuff to automate, and no
> > script will do your programming work, you can have reusable component,
but
> > it just make your life a bit easier.
> >
> > Justin
> > "Daniel A. Morgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > news:3C53E0E8.3001B6F0_at_exesolutions.com...
> > > I strongly disagree. A good DBA should have scripts monitoring
multiple
> > instances that send emails
> > > whenever certain metrics are found to be out-of-whack. The backups
should
> > be automated and the
> > > restores never required. And with respect to tuning ... that is
certainly
> > an ongoing activity. But
> > > if it takes 8 hours a day ... there is something very wrong. Likely
going
> > all the way back to not
> > > being involved in the application's development and testing cycle.
> > >
> > > Daniel Morgan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin McDaniel wrote:
> > >
> > > > Justin,
> > > >
> > > > If the DBAs you know do nothing but surf the net all day, then they
> > > > must not be very good DBAs. Although the list of general
> > > > responsibilities for DBAs is rather short, they encompass quite a
bit.
> > > > For example, I spend the majority of my day working on space
> > > > management issues. I prepare reports and conduct research for
> > > > upcoming projects that will effect the database. I determine if the
> > > > amount of space allocated to the database is sufficient for future
> > > > changes, like new product installations, growth rates of existing
> > > > applications, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Besides the normal DBA responsibilities of Backup/Recovery,
> > > > Perf/Tuning, the DBAs that I know also work on application
development
> > > > and tuning.
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line: there is a lot to being a DBA. The pace may be a
little
> > > > less than what you're used to now. But don't expect it to be like
> > > > that all of the time.
> > > >
> > > > "Justin" <justin_at_ca.ca> wrote in message
> > news:<nfJ48.18402$Ii5.4912179_at_news20.bellglobal.com>...
> > > > > Hey, Chris,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the reply, I took a look at the STS stuff, looks
good
> > though
> > > > > the price is kind of steep. Do you have any experience with STS ?
Do
> > you
> > > > > think reading oracle's documentation will help, though the volume
is
> > kind of
> > > > > overwhelming.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm just curious, the DBAs I know seems just like Sys Admins,
> > sitting
> > > > > there surfing the net all day, unless someone broke something or
> > something
> > > > > really bad happend, which doesn't happen that often, while us poor
> > > > > programmers have to work day and night at every new feature
release,
> > which
> > > > > is almost every week.
> > > > >
> > > > > Justin
> > > > >
> > > > > "Chris Boyle" <cboyle_at_no.spam.hargray.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:a2u70u$dh8d$1_at_news3.infoave.net...
> > > > > > I would also skip the OCP CBTs from Oracle. They were the exact
> > same
> > > > > > quality as Daniel found the book to be. Until Sybex or somebody
> > comes out
> > > > > > with a book your only choice is class room training. You could
get
> > the
> > > > > STS
> > > > > > test. They will help you pass certification.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have never met a DBA that didn't have deadlines to meet and
> > recovering a
> > > > > > mission critical instance after a disk failure can't be
considered
> > > > > relaxing.
> > > > > > DBA is different than programming but it can be just as
stressful
> > and
> > > > > > taxing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck on the exams.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Justin" <justin_at_ca.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:_Ul48.20204$bu6.3893731_at_news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > > > > > Hi, there,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm thinking about take oracle 9i ocp exam, at least the
oca
> > part,
> > > > > before
> > > > > > > looking for a dba job. Been a programmer too long, tired and
laid
> > off.
> > > > > Want
> > > > > > > something more relaxing. Hate deadlines.
> > > > > > > Any suggestions on what kind of books or online resources
for
> > the
> > > > > > > preparation, oracle 9i is pretty new, you know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Justin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
>
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