Re: Thanks for the reply
From: Niall Litchfield <n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:18:45 -0000
Message-ID: <3c5579e8$0$8511$ed9e5944_at_reading.news.pipex.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:18:45 -0000
Message-ID: <3c5579e8$0$8511$ed9e5944_at_reading.news.pipex.net>
Be aware though that *if* the company knows what they are doing you will be heavily involved in application development, and have the automatabe stuff to keep an eye on as well. This is the bad news. The good news is at least that way you don't have to *fix* an app you didn't write and without touching the source.
-- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA Audit Commission UK ***************************************** Please include version and platform and SQL where applicable It makes life easier and increases the likelihood of a good answer ****************************************** (Can you tell I have 5 simultaneous dev projects that all need to be done like three weeks ago). "Justin" <justin_at_ca.ca> wrote in message news:Lye58.7383$yi5.959802_at_news20.bellglobal.com...Received on Mon Jan 28 2002 - 17:18:45 CET
> Daniel,
> I totally agree with you, and that's why I want to be a DBA, instead of
a
> programmer, as a programmer, there isn't much stuff to automate, and no
> script will do your programming work, you can have reusable component, but
> it just make your life a bit easier.
>
> Justin
> "Daniel A. Morgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> news:3C53E0E8.3001B6F0_at_exesolutions.com...
> > I strongly disagree. A good DBA should have scripts monitoring multiple
> instances that send emails
> > whenever certain metrics are found to be out-of-whack. The backups
should
> be automated and the
> > restores never required. And with respect to tuning ... that is
certainly
> an ongoing activity. But
> > if it takes 8 hours a day ... there is something very wrong. Likely
going
> all the way back to not
> > being involved in the application's development and testing cycle.
> >
> > Daniel Morgan
> >
> >
> >
> > Kevin McDaniel wrote:
> >
> > > Justin,
> > >
> > > If the DBAs you know do nothing but surf the net all day, then they
> > > must not be very good DBAs. Although the list of general
> > > responsibilities for DBAs is rather short, they encompass quite a bit.
> > > For example, I spend the majority of my day working on space
> > > management issues. I prepare reports and conduct research for
> > > upcoming projects that will effect the database. I determine if the
> > > amount of space allocated to the database is sufficient for future
> > > changes, like new product installations, growth rates of existing
> > > applications, etc.
> > >
> > > Besides the normal DBA responsibilities of Backup/Recovery,
> > > Perf/Tuning, the DBAs that I know also work on application development
> > > and tuning.
> > >
> > > Bottom line: there is a lot to being a DBA. The pace may be a little
> > > less than what you're used to now. But don't expect it to be like
> > > that all of the time.
> > >
> > > "Justin" <justin_at_ca.ca> wrote in message
> news:<nfJ48.18402$Ii5.4912179_at_news20.bellglobal.com>...
> > > > Hey, Chris,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the reply, I took a look at the STS stuff, looks good
> though
> > > > the price is kind of steep. Do you have any experience with STS ? Do
> you
> > > > think reading oracle's documentation will help, though the volume is
> kind of
> > > > overwhelming.
> > > >
> > > > I'm just curious, the DBAs I know seems just like Sys Admins,
> sitting
> > > > there surfing the net all day, unless someone broke something or
> something
> > > > really bad happend, which doesn't happen that often, while us poor
> > > > programmers have to work day and night at every new feature release,
> which
> > > > is almost every week.
> > > >
> > > > Justin
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Boyle" <cboyle_at_no.spam.hargray.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:a2u70u$dh8d$1_at_news3.infoave.net...
> > > > > I would also skip the OCP CBTs from Oracle. They were the exact
> same
> > > > > quality as Daniel found the book to be. Until Sybex or somebody
> comes out
> > > > > with a book your only choice is class room training. You could
get
> the
> > > > STS
> > > > > test. They will help you pass certification.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have never met a DBA that didn't have deadlines to meet and
> recovering a
> > > > > mission critical instance after a disk failure can't be considered
> > > > relaxing.
> > > > > DBA is different than programming but it can be just as stressful
> and
> > > > > taxing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck on the exams.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Justin" <justin_at_ca.ca> wrote in message
> > > > > news:_Ul48.20204$bu6.3893731_at_news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > > > > Hi, there,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm thinking about take oracle 9i ocp exam, at least the oca
> part,
> > > > before
> > > > > > looking for a dba job. Been a programmer too long, tired and
laid
> off.
> > > > Want
> > > > > > something more relaxing. Hate deadlines.
> > > > > > Any suggestions on what kind of books or online resources for
> the
> > > > > > preparation, oracle 9i is pretty new, you know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Justin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
>
>