Re: Forms 5.0 binary module conversion

Mike,

Oracle is listening !

This functionality is improved in 6.0 and 6i

These have a proper search and replace facility.

As for the other stuff, watch this space.

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Regards

Jason

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  Jason Pepper - Enterprise Internet Tools Product Management
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"Mike Dwyer" <dwyermj_at_co.larimer.co.us> wrote in message
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> Robert -

>

> > 4.  Search every module by hand  :-(

> > The "Find" tool in Forms 5 only works within one PL/SQL

> > window (one block of code) and does not search the whole

> > module top to bottom, so you are forced to search again and

> > again in every item...manually.  :-( :-(

>

> Have you used the Program/PL-SQL Editor on the Forms 5 menu? It is

(barely)


> a step above the Find tool, but it will search the entire PL/SQL codebase

in


> the form - triggers and program units. But, it stops after each

> trigger/program unit whether it found anything or not, and waits for a

> Continue response. If you go too fast, it'll crash form builder, and it

> seems to slow down the deeper it probes your code. I've also had it give a

> PDE error, whatever that is, if I have been editing the form. I have to

> close the fmb file and re-open it to get the tool  to work.

>

> ORACLE ARE YOU LISTENING!

>

> FormGrep (see my earlier post) can help, but it will only _tell_ you where

a


> string of code resides, in multiple fmb's and pll's, but it doesn't _take_

> you to the code so you can change it.

>

> I learned Forms on version 2 (!), and those fmt's (there were no fmb's)

were


> edited by hand - in YOUR OWN editor! Even in Forms 3, you could use a text

> editor as long as you kept the format intact. I'm so happy we have

"better"


> tools now! ;-)

>

> <rtproffitt_at_my-deja.com> wrote in message

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> > Sorry Torben...

> > Welcome to Oracle Forms...

> >

> > The behavior is exactly as designed for Forms.

> > The FMT files are designed to be a way to describe

> > the binary in text format.  Just like yourself,

> > I wanted to search for text in multiple places...

> > this is very difficult.

> >

> > So, 1. you can't use FMT to search for text....

> > 2. You might be able to create Object List Reports

> > for all 200 ??? modules. This is a text/english readable

> > translation of the properties and triggers in forms.

> > However, in Forms 5 I have had problems and at least 25%

> > of the time the whole app crashes while creating the

> > object report.  I have not tested Forms 6 yet.

> >

> > This leaves two less than adequate choices:

> > 3.  Search for text in the FMB files (or copies of them)

> > using a binary editor.  Problem is: when you locate the

> > text, you cannot tell WHICH trigger contains it, except

> > by deductive reasoning...

> >

> > 4.  Search every module by hand  :-(

> > The "Find" tool in Forms 5 only works within one PL/SQL

> > window (one block of code) and does not search the whole

> > module top to bottom, so you are forced to search again and

> > again in every item...manually.  :-( :-(

> >

> > I have had limited success with method 3, searching in

> > a binary editor (I just used KEDIT), then search the

> > module carefully in Forms when I find a hit in KEDIT.

> >

> > (By the way, when I first learned Forms, I hoped for

> > an Engligh metalanguage for the entire module, which I

> > could edit and import easily on large blocks of code,

> > but NO SUCH LUCK....only Object List Report and FMT Files)

> >

> > Good Luck

> > Robert Proffitt

> > Beckman Coulter

> > RTProffitt AT beckman DOT com

> >

> >

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/

> > Before you buy.

>

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