Re: Got a question regarding newbies

From: Sanrenkur <sanrenkur_at_aol.com>
Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:52:26 GMT
Message-ID: <20000316145226.03175.00002243_at_ng-fn1.aol.com>


>sybrand wrote:

>I'm sure your initiative is laudable.
>However,...
>1 As many newbies are too lazy to search the deja archives, they probably
>also won't search such a knowledge base (which is of course already
>available on technet.oracle.com and support.oracle.com and not to forget the
>website of Thomas Kyte)

 Wow! Such a sweeping generalization of newbies. I don't suppose you were ever a newbie? And if you were, I am sure you NEVER asked a "stupid" question, or wrote a bad piece of code (in reference to your other very critical and sarcastic answer) Perhaps you should be a little more tolerant. I have noticed that you seem to be complaining alot lately regarding crossposts, inappropriate format, etc, etc, etc. You are not obligated to answer any questions, although your expertise is apparent and I'm sure these newbies value your input. However, the way in which you answer at times serves no purpose other than to humiliate and discourage people who are just starting out. It is unnecessary. Yours is the kind of arrogant attitude that give technical people a bad reputation.

IMHO
SanJen
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>Andrew Sheh <ashea_at_dmetechnologies.com> wrote in message
>news:38D12329.219071BB_at_dmetechnologies.com...
>> Probably <OT> and don't have qualifications to comment in this thread--
>> since I am a newbie.
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>> However, I just wanted to note that I appreciate your help. I don't post
>> much, because I do make a point of finding the answer first elsewhere,
>> including the new post in the newsgroup.
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>> Questions do get repetitive and understand that you might not have the
>time
>> to answer them. Of course, every one has an option of not answering, but
>> keep in mind that you help some of us.
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>> Finally, I am a contributor to FAQTS.com -- knowledge base for PHP
>> questions. It allows people to put questions and answers of simple
>> questions about a software (could be Oracle) Then people can respond or
>> find answers with their search engine.
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>> Its idea is not to take emails/postings automatically but manually post
>> responses to avoid all the repetition of asking/answering the same
>questions
>> over and over again.
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>> Since I am starting a Oracle DBA career, I was asked to start a knowledge
>> base. However, I had my doubts since Oracle is well supported
>> elsewhere/everywhere.
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>> If you guys are interested, we could organize one and when newbie
>questions
>> arise, you can send them to the page with all the answers at the FAQTS,
>> without having to retype it. I could learn most of it in the process.
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>> Let me know if you are interested. If you reply, send a cc to me
>> personally.
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>> Andrew Sheh
>> ashea_at_dmetechnologies.com
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>> kal121_at_my-deja.com wrote:
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>> > If one does not want to answer newbie questions, one does not *have* to
>> > answer newbie questions. By their very nature, newbies do not know
>> > enough about the documentation to know where to find the answers, that's
>> > why the come to the newsgroups. Apparently the people who have the time
>> > to post articles like this one have the time to answer stupid newbie
>> > questions. :-) I've always enjoyed helping people - why do some DBA's
>> > insist upon having an "attitude" about people who know less than they
>> > do? Learning *where* to find the answers is part of our skill set. Be
>> > happy that you live in a time and place where you can make lots of money
>> > being a DBA, enjoy prestige in your career, etc. You don't need to put
>> > others down in the process.
>> >
>> > In article <38904321.73D4B53F_at_Unforgetable.com>,
>> > Kenneth C Stahl <BlueSax_at_Unforgetable.com> wrote:
>> > > I've been on this newsgroup for quite some time and have a couple
>> > > questions.
>> > >
>> > > Why is it that every newbie on the oracle newsgroups automatically
>> > post a
>> > > message asking for a way to determine the number of rows in a table
>> > without
>> > > using count()?
>> > >
>> > > Why is it that every newbie also seems to automatically ask how to
>> > create a
>> > > temp table in Oracle?
>> > >
>> > > It seems that the newsgroup spends an inordinate amount of time on
>> > these
>> > > two issues and that newbies never read the thousands of messages on
>> > the
>> > > subject before they post their own query.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> > Before you buy.
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